Lower volume on all

When I select all, click 'cntrl/lower volume' from 0 to inf on a track, not all tracks are affected.
Everything is post fader. I should hear nothing right? 
Most noticeable with folders collapsed.
Is this a bug?
 
thx

Yep, if all of your faders are roughly in the middle of their travel, they will all increase or decrease proportionally if you cntrl + drag any of them up down.
 
But to get them all to -INF you need to start by using the one with the highest value as a sort of "base" and lower this one.
 
So no, it's not a bug :)
 

yea bruce,  the source track starts at 0.

Well you need to analyse what you're hearing and where it's coming from.
 
Do you have any Pre Fader sends going into your Fx busses? That would cause sound to continue, even with all track faders at -INF
 
Check all of your meters - Tracks & Busses - this will give you a massive clue.

tenfoot

timidi
yea bruce,  the source track starts at 0.

Just did a quick test - you are quite right. Control/Click on track volume, pan or gain sliders for quick grouping does not work with collapsed folders, even though the tracks are highlighted as selected when the folder is expanded.

It's been that way with me, too.  I just open all folders then select all and change the volumes.

tenfoot

timidi
yea bruce,  the source track starts at 0.

Just did a quick test - you are quite right. Control/Click on track volume, pan or gain sliders for quick grouping does not work with collapsed folders, even though the tracks are highlighted as selected when the folder is expanded.

Thanks for your diligence and comprehending Bruce.
 
The reason for this excercise was to see if it actually works so I could use the feature.
No, it doesn't work.
I expanded all folders, muted effects buss,  
bounced a mix (80 or so tracks)
muted the bounced mix
brought level down 8db on all tracks
bounced a mix
lowered volume of first mix 8db and inverted phase of first mix
played the 2 mixes together.
doesn't null. Not even close.
 
Also, I shouldn't have to mute the effects buss as all sends are post-fader. It's 1's and 0's after all. (edited per Bristol)
 
If you get a chance Bruce, it would be great if you could confirm. Thanks
 

Sorry Bristol. 
You are correct.
I meant post-fader in the other post.

timidi
I expanded all folders, muted effects buss,  
bounced a mix (80 or so tracks)
muted the bounced mix
brought level down 8db on all tracks
bounced a mix
lowered volume of first mix 8db and inverted phase of first mix
played the 2 mixes together.
doesn't null. Not even close.
 
 
If you get a chance Bruce, it would be great if you could confirm. Thanks
 

I will give it a try in the studio Tomorrow Tim. Just a thought though; I am not entirely sure that it should null. I could be wrong,  but I think unless all tracks start out with their faders at 0 before any grouping volume reductions the mixes of the two files will be different. Using the control/click grouping,  you are reducing each individual track by 8db, thus changing the ratios between them unless the faders were equal to begin with. By bouncing the track first and then reducing the entire mix by 8db, you are changing the level of the overall mix, but not the ratio between individual tracks.