Lynx AES16e + Aurora - no sound on Default output (1&2)

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2018/05/22 19:58:44 (permalink)

Lynx AES16e + Aurora - no sound on Default output (1&2)

Lately I have not been able to use SONAR with the default 1&2 as output. (this is when I'm using ASIO driver. If I route the main output to 3&4 it works normal, or if I change to WDM drivers. 
First time I installed the new Cakewalk it worked (sound out of 1&2) till I did a restart, then I was back to the same trouble.
The ASIO driver works perfectly in Pro Tools and Studio One 3. (but not in Soundforge, here I also have to use the WDM driver)
Any Ide what the problem can be?
PS! I have the latest update on WIN 10 now, but there was noe difference with this version...

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    PhilW
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    Re: Lynx AES16e + Aurora - no sound on Default output (1&2) 2018/05/22 21:48:36 (permalink)
    Does that mean the Lynx Mixer shows no outut on 1&2?  Assuming they're not muted, of course. 
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    Re: Lynx AES16e + Aurora - no sound on Default output (1&2) 2018/05/23 06:58:35 (permalink)
    Correct. The Lynx mixer shows no output on 1&2, but in Cakewalk everything looks normal (Shows output on channels, busses and main out. It seems like Cakewalk cannot "Take exclusive control" of the default output in WIN sound settings.
    (This did work normal before. )

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    Re: Lynx AES16e + Aurora - no sound on Default output (1&2) 2018/05/23 10:57:15 (permalink)
    Have you reported this to Lynx support yet?

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    Re: Lynx AES16e + Aurora - no sound on Default output (1&2) 2018/05/23 11:06:47 (permalink)
    Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
    Have you reported this to Lynx support yet?


    Yes, off course. But they haven't found out anything yet (we have tried a couple of things, and haven't given up yet  ). But the strange thing here is that PT12 and Studio One 3 is working perfectly as expected.

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    Re: Lynx AES16e + Aurora - no sound on Default output (1&2) 2018/05/23 17:00:52 (permalink)
    I had something like this, i believed the problem was with windows audio routing. so what i did is I made  windows use outputs 15-16 as its default output instead of 1-2 which is the default. then in the lynx mixer i would route 15-16 trough 1-2. that seemed to clear up my problems. This was when I i had the onboard sound card disabled and windows needed a device to play sounds so it took outputs 1-2 which caused problems especially if i was using sonar and other windows app that played sounds at the same time i.e. youtube, media player ect,,,

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    Re: Lynx AES16e + Aurora - no sound on Default output (1&2) 2018/05/23 18:25:16 (permalink)
    I also believe that it is a problem with Windows audio routing, but it is strange that it works perfectly in Pro Tools and in Studio One 3. It seems like Cakewalk cannot "Take exclusive control" of the default output in WIN 10 anymore. There got to be a "missing link" in the way Cakewalk handles this. I will try your suggested workaround when I'm in the studio again.  

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    Re: Lynx AES16e + Aurora - no sound on Default output (1&2) 2018/05/24 01:42:29 (permalink)
    HMusikk
    Correct. The Lynx mixer shows no output on 1&2, but in Cakewalk everything looks normal (Shows output on channels, busses and main out. It seems like Cakewalk cannot "Take exclusive control" of the default output in WIN sound settings.
    (This did work normal before. )




    Are the outputs 1/2 still set in Cakewalk's Preferences?

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    Re: Lynx AES16e + Aurora - no sound on Default output (1&2) 2018/05/24 06:08:50 (permalink)
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    Correct. The Lynx mixer shows no output on 1&2, but in Cakewalk everything looks normal (Shows output on channels, busses and main out. It seems like Cakewalk cannot "Take exclusive control" of the default output in WIN sound settings.
    (This did work normal before. )


    Are the outputs 1/2 still set in Cakewalk's Preferences?

    Yes.

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    Re: Lynx AES16e + Aurora - no sound on Default output (1&2) 2018/05/24 19:11:57 (permalink)
    I Have tried to use 15&16 as Windows default playback device now, but still no sound out of Sonar on 1&2

    Gunnar Hustvedt
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    Re: Lynx AES16e + Aurora - no sound on Default output (1&2) 2018/05/24 21:55:12 (permalink)
    A couple of thoughts:
     
    On the Windows audio routing, make sure that the default recording device isn't AES Record 01+02, in case Sonar thinks that you're recording there and won't playback there. Other DAWs may not care. 
     
    Is the AES the only ASIO device? I ask this because it's not clear to me how Sonar decides which ASIO to use if there is a choice. I have a HILO USB, so there are USB ASIO devices as well as the ASIO AES16 devices. Reaper gives me a choice which of these I would like to use. Sonar seems to prefer the AES16 device. So Sonar might have output logic that wants to use the other ASIO device, assuming it's connected. Or something - just fishing here. 
     
    Does the Lynx Demo app play to AES1+2? If that also works that seems to narrow it down to Sonar. 
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    Re: Lynx AES16e + Aurora - no sound on Default output (1&2) 2018/05/25 07:45:18 (permalink)
    PhilW
     
    Does the Lynx Demo app play to AES1+2? If that also works that seems to narrow it down to Sonar. 


    Thank you all for your feedback and suggestions. I think I have forgot to mention that I have used the Lynx AES16/Aurora combination since I bought it for about 11 years ago, and it has been working perfectly normal all the time (with all version of SONAR) up until last autumn sometime (not sure exactly when). During the time SONAR was "dead" I bought Studio One 3, and I also owned Pro Tools (use PT most of the time) And as mention above here, it works perfectly normal in those programs.
    I think that one of the many updates that came with Windows 10 has changed something, and SONAR is now not able to take "fully control" of the audio device. I have used the same settings in Windows Sound setting all the time.

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