2016/08/06 15:39:17
cballreich
Actually, my gear history seems to be that if I find a mic I love, I usually end up getting a second one. This is the third strike on the R44c. If I can't afford one, I'll never manage two! 
 
Cindy
2016/08/14 14:10:08
wst3
First - that's a really lovely recording!! Wow!!

Second, the AEA and Royer microphones are all great. I ended up getting a pair of the R101s because I think they are a little more flexible, where the R84 sounds a LOT like a good old RCA ribbon - which is always a good thing, and sometimes exactly what you want. The Royer microphones, to my ears, are a little more present, some might even say brighter, although I think it is more that they just extend a little further or more smoothly or who the heck tries to describe sound<G>?
 
Oh yeah, they were also more affordable. I use a Millenia Media HV-37 as my main preamplifier, so I can't comment on the AEA, but I can comment on the Great River gear - it is fantastic, a little more colorful than the HV-37, but again, sometimes that is what you want.

And the folks at Royer might complain, but I can't hear the difference between an R-101 and an R-121. Could be my monitors, could be my ears, but I couldn't pick one from the other. I think the R-121 is going to be easier to position, but I'll wrestle a little for the savings<G>!

The combination of the R84 and the R-121 is clearly awesome, so that's another option (for those of us who like to spend other people's money!)
 
Bottom line - I don't think you can make a bad choice...
2016/08/16 13:02:16
cballreich
OK, things just got a lot more complicated.
I emailed Sammy Rothman at AEA and we had a nice exchange during which he asked if I'd considered their N22 or N8 mics. Of course I hadn't, mostly because the R84 just looks so wicked cool. Setting that aside, I stared pouring over the specs and reviews and now I'm thinking their N8 may be the mic of my dreams. In addition, since it uses phantom power, I wouldn't need the specialized preamp and could afford the stereo pair.
 
So now I'm *really* confused. Has anyone tried either of these mics? I'd sure appreciate some feedbackind. The magazines seem to love them, but they seem to love everything.
 
Cindy
2016/08/16 13:24:06
wst3
one person's opinion!!!

I'm not fond of microphones with built in preamplifiers, it limits (at least a little) my choices. Note that a built in preamplifier is not the same as the built in buffer/head amplifier one finds in condenser microphones.

I really like the Royer "Active" ribbon microphones, and I'd probably never feel the need to use a different preamplifer, but on off chance that I might, well, I ended up with the passive version.

I've also never heard an AES microphone I didn't like and I'd expect that the same would be true for their active microphones. But I'd probably still choose a passive ribbon just for the extra flexibility.

One last observation... while ribbon microphones have, generally speaking, a lower output level than their moving magnet cousins, there aren't a lot of occasions when one is going to run into problems. It depends, of course, on what you are recording, but I very seldom use 60 dB of gain with any of my ribbon microphones, so the extra 10 dB that a preamplifier might provide in "ribbon mode" is not always necessary. Disconnecting the phantom power entirely is a very nice feature, but that is an easy modification should you be so inclined.
2016/08/17 10:54:11
bapu
I use a Grace m101 preamp with my R84.
 
I only do vocals with it.
 
2016/08/17 21:52:40
cballreich
I went up to Pasadena to visit AEA and talk about mics & preamps. I got a couple of mics to evaluate and I'll report back on that. While I was there, I saw these...


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