2017/12/14 00:04:12
batsbrew
Metaclass
 
After trying Studion One, and CUBASE, I foudn to my surprise, that non of them can record on the same track and listen to the previous recording ( ont the same track )simultanously 

this is incorrect.
2017/12/14 00:11:33
AndrewLMacaulay
I've played with the trial of Studio One, but as I am primarily a MIDI/VST instruments composer, I find it very limited compared to SONAR and lacking in a number of key areas for that side of things - we really WERE spoiled by SONAR!
 
For me, it is looking like Cubase is the way I'll have to go to get the level of MIDI editing I need, but still finding the workflow/UI in Cubase quite dated and not that optimised for touch/high-DPI screens - although it does seem to provide much of the MIDI editing I need. And with the use of DXshell (free) and jBridge (small cost), it looks like I can get pretty much all of my instruments and effects running under it (there are a few still to be tested). Although the pretty awesome Cakewalk Adaptive Limiter, although it runs, is locked to running under SONAR
 
From what I've seen, other DAWs out there have more modern UI's including support for touch and better high-DPI support, but don't do the audio or the MIDI/VST instrument editing that well ---- and then there are some DAWs that have UIs that feel like a 10-year-old designed them 
 
So I'm still trying them all out (takes a lot of time to do this), and still planning to run SPlat until it breaks, but feels like it is probably best to start learning Cubase, ready for in the inevitable......
 
.....unless anyone can suggest better options for MIDI/Instrument work! ...... or unless someone buys SONAR and gives it life again [we can hope!]
 
And when I've collated all the info I've found about plugin compatibility and feature comparisons, I'll probably try to post it somewhere in case it's useful for others.
2017/12/14 00:32:07
bitflipper
Check out Samplitude.
 
I'm 75% MIDI and 25% audio. Everybody does audio just fine. It's with MIDI, in particular multi-track editing and multi-timbral routing where most fall short of SONAR. Samplitude does it well. More important, it works in a very similar manner to SONAR, potentially flattening the learning curve.
 

2017/12/14 00:34:33
Jeff Evans
Hi Andrew. The trial version is nothing like the Pro version of Studio One. What midi editing features do you need? Studio One is much deeper midi wise than most people around here actually realise. Audio editing is seriously powerful.
 
Sure midi may not be as deep as Cubase or Sonar but still way powerful none the less.  I compose music (for a living) and have a big hardware setup as well as a large range of VST's.  Never had a problem yet realising my ideas. 
 
Studio One can also do multitrack midi editing for Dave's interest.
2017/12/14 01:20:12
JonD
Groove3 is a great resource for tutorial videos, especially right now with their 9.99 per month subscription special. which gives you streaming access to their entire library.  It's easy to cancel your subscription at any time, so you can join for one month - more than enough time to pick up the basics of any DAW - or keep it going for as many months as you need.... They have something like 15 videos on Studio One 3 alone.
 
YouTube is free and also great, but the quality of videos can be a mixed bag, so you'll need a bit more time and patience (You also have to deal with the constant commercials).
2017/12/14 07:22:19
werewindle
Strongly suggest the Groove 3 tutorials if you actually go for Studio One. It cuts down the learning curve dramatically.
I would probably have been very frustrated if I dived straight in but it literally took me minutes to set up the template for the 1st project to be migrated and that was with the additional complication of 13 mix tracks for SD3 which is just 12 clicks but without tutorial it would never have occurred to me how to do it (okay eventually it would have).
My only issue is with SONAR & Console 1 as I can't save my track presets so have to screen clip them in interim.
2017/12/14 07:56:21
Frank-US
dappa1
It's a great product Teddy Riley uses it. Infact he has been an advocate for it he says the sound is great and mixing in it is better than Pro Tools. You can check out his you tube vids.


 Not that this is super important for any ones decision but Teddy switched back to Cubase in 2015.
2017/12/14 08:01:08
Frank-US
batsbrew
Metaclass
 
After trying Studion One, and CUBASE, I foudn to my surprise, that non of them can record on the same track and listen to the previous recording ( ont the same track )simultanously 

this is incorrect.


Metaclass ist not talking about different monitor modes. These are available in most DAW's. It's rather about listen to two different files on the same track at the same time. This is how I understood his question.
2017/12/14 09:36:08
texasaurus rex
Purchased Samplitude and Studio One, our crew is enjoying learning both. First time we have ever recorded same song/project on two DAW's simultaneously, evaluating in real time the differences, ease of use,etc.  Tons of online tutorials for S1, while Samplitude is slim pickin's.  Samplitude is way better than 1st realized;the packade deal with SpectraLayers Pro,Melodyne,etc., was the deal of a lifetime.  Studio One is top-notch on every level,with many hardware options provided by Presonus that sync smooth as butter. Problem is, personally...I use Sonar/love Sonar/dream in Sonar, although lately the dreams have become nightmares. It's been a hella 2017, all I can say...we sure appreciate the other DAW/software companies that have stepped up to help during this forced transition. 
2017/12/14 10:25:21
subtlearts
Reaper won me over. It's astonishingly good. Takes a bit of learning but the more I learn the more I like it. 
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