• SONAR
  • cakewalk crashing (p.2)
2016/10/01 16:19:04
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Jarsve
 
This is a project I've been working on for some time. All older wav files are in the audio folder. Just the ones i recorded today is gone. Its really frustrating. recording guitar lead is hard, and starting all over makes me pissed off.




SONAR never deletes newly recorded audio in a project unless you intentionally close the project and cancel from the save prompt. i.e. if SONAR crashes after recording audio all the audio should be left intact in the project audio folder. If you never saved the project and its not per project audio, the wave files will be in the global audio folder.
2016/10/01 17:30:19
ØSkald
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Jarsve
 
This is a project I've been working on for some time. All older wav files are in the audio folder. Just the ones i recorded today is gone. Its really frustrating. recording guitar lead is hard, and starting all over makes me pissed off.




SONAR never deletes newly recorded audio in a project unless you intentionally close the project and cancel from the save prompt. i.e. if SONAR crashes after recording audio all the audio should be left intact in the project audio folder. If you never saved the project and its not per project audio, the wave files will be in the global audio folder.


I know. All projects have its own audio folder on my computer. I have tried to locate the files in Recuva by Piniform, but i dont think it works on SSDs with TRIM on. They are just gone. I dont know how...
2016/10/02 00:09:07
Sir Les
The odd old aged...oddity mystery bug..."Missing files"....Yep seen that in a older x3 rendition I believe.
 
And others saying odd things happening yet are very hard to reproduce...
 
So many things of odd natures that should not happen...Happen...I Guess some one named Murphy put his laws of code into the machines...
 
Sorry bud, if it ain't in the folder, and  windows search for track name and number does not resolve, try to see what the file location is set to when you open the last session, in the preferences....if it has changed...You might find it in some way liken that?...or if auto save has a different folder choice and check that?
 
Also of remembered notes of past use..... I bumped into a tile with numbers on it up on the right side of the DAW...selecting the numbers changes the view of the track view, hides things, and or...another oddity may occur and some windows close or hide...Yet cannot be returned to view as nothing is hidden....So, clicking around to see what does what...That tile with lots of numbers on it, seems to do something in changing views, nd hiding tracks....go through those numbers...and see if your track appears again....
 
 
Just a thought...
 
Some times we hit the wrong hot keys by mistake...trying to stop the play or record....oops.
 
Best wishes!
Cheers.
 
 
2016/10/02 05:51:17
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
Jarsve
Its really frustrating. recording guitar lead is hard, and starting all over makes me pissed off.




take it easy. give yourself a break. the next takes will be better than the previous ones anyway
2016/10/02 10:29:00
stevesweat
Jarsve
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Jarsve
 
This is a project I've been working on for some time. All older wav files are in the audio folder. Just the ones i recorded today is gone. Its really frustrating. recording guitar lead is hard, and starting all over makes me pissed off.




SONAR never deletes newly recorded audio in a project unless you intentionally close the project and cancel from the save prompt. i.e. if SONAR crashes after recording audio all the audio should be left intact in the project audio folder. If you never saved the project and its not per project audio, the wave files will be in the global audio folder.


I know. All projects have its own audio folder on my computer. I have tried to locate the files in Recuva by Piniform, but i dont think it works on SSDs with TRIM on. They are just gone. I dont know how...




Did you check the Global Audio folder (not the project audio folder) like Noel suggested??
2016/10/02 10:35:47
pwalpwal
how are your hd buffers configured? if "for performance", the data was probably still in the buffer, and the crash stopped it from being flushed/written to disk
2016/10/02 12:18:10
mettelus
The UAC message is concerning since I would assume that was a write error, but if you were bouncing takes that writes a new wav file - some should be there prior to the crash. Please just do a search for *.wav and sort by creation date. If that UAC error popped up overwriting the cwp file, it may truly be gone, but not sure with that.

The only write error I ever got (general program error) was resolved by bumping disk I/O buffers up to 512 under "Sync and Caching" (in advanced mode at the bottom) in the Preferences screen.

The UAC error is something to troubleshoot though. I am not sure what may have caused that.
2016/10/02 22:06:54
ØSkald
stevesweat
Jarsve
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Jarsve
 
This is a project I've been working on for some time. All older wav files are in the audio folder. Just the ones i recorded today is gone. Its really frustrating. recording guitar lead is hard, and starting all over makes me pissed off.




SONAR never deletes newly recorded audio in a project unless you intentionally close the project and cancel from the save prompt. i.e. if SONAR crashes after recording audio all the audio should be left intact in the project audio folder. If you never saved the project and its not per project audio, the wave files will be in the global audio folder.


I know. All projects have its own audio folder on my computer. I have tried to locate the files in Recuva by Piniform, but i dont think it works on SSDs with TRIM on. They are just gone. I dont know how...




Did you check the Global Audio folder (not the project audio folder) like Noel suggested??


i did nothing there no *.wav files from that date on the entire computer. Even Rescuva didn't find anything.
2016/10/02 22:10:04
ØSkald
pwalpwal
how are your hd buffers configured? if "for performance", the data was probably still in the buffer, and the crash stopped it from being flushed/written to disk


I dont think i have buffers on this SSD. If Sonar waits on writing down for several hours then that's the problem.
2016/10/02 22:14:20
ØSkald
mettelus
The UAC message is concerning since I would assume that was a write error, but if you were bouncing takes that writes a new wav file - some should be there prior to the crash. Please just do a search for *.wav and sort by creation date. If that UAC error popped up overwriting the cwp file, it may truly be gone, but not sure with that.

The only write error I ever got (general program error) was resolved by bumping disk I/O buffers up to 512 under "Sync and Caching" (in advanced mode at the bottom) in the Preferences screen.

The UAC error is something to troubleshoot though. I am not sure what may have caused that.

yeah it is strange. i have Sonar on autosave every change now. hope that will prevent this from happening again!
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