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  • DeEsser in Sonar (p.3)
2016/09/28 11:31:40
mikedocy
LJB
The LP Multiband is great for De-Essing too.




I'll add that the Sonitus multiband will work too. Bypass the lower bands and keep the highest one active
and set its frequency to about 3K to start. Set ratio for about 3 dB of reduction to start. Set threshold so that the "s" sounds are compressing.
2016/09/28 13:14:02
muzdol
When it comes to deesser, one should check out tonbooster silbalance. It is very cheap and sounds wonderful!
2016/09/29 01:39:59
Anderton
mikedocy
LJB
The LP Multiband is great for De-Essing too.




I'll add that the Sonitus multiband will work too. Bypass the lower bands and keep the highest one active
and set its frequency to about 3K to start. Set ratio for about 3 dB of reduction to start. Set threshold so that the "s" sounds are compressing.



 
+1 on both. The Sonitus multiband is what I use for "de-essing" on guitar most of the time.
2016/09/29 09:19:34
KingsMix
Nomad
Just take some time to twist knobs and get to know it a bit. Although I understand that sometimes time does not allow for on the spot experimentation in the middle of a time sensitive project. It will do the job , just takes some finessing in the tweak department.
2016/09/29 09:26:34
Hatstand
I think de-essing should be outlawed on the grounds of Phonetic Discrimination.
I may even start my own Phonetically Correct brigade!
 
De-breath plug ins on the other hand....
2016/09/29 10:11:20
tlw
I've tried a few de-essers, but seem to keep coming back to doing it using old-style side-chained compression.

Clone the offending vocal track, set the output to an aux channel. Eq that track to emphasise the sibilance, preferably so it contains as little content other than sibilance as possible. Then mute the aux.

Put a compressor on the "real" vocal track and side-chain it to the sibilance track, then adjust the compressor and sibilance track fader until the result is as good as it can be. A few more steps than doing it all in a single plugin, but allows the choice of any compressor that has a side-chain.

The even more old-fashioned 1930s-50s way of dealing with sibilants was for singers to change how they vocalised words that begin with an s, singing almost an "sh" sound instead, which puts the tongue at the bottom of the mouth not the top (where it is with an "s") and greatly reducing the whistling caused by directing air out of the top of the mouth and through the teeth.

Crooners seem to have suffered most from sibilance, maybe as a side-effect of the style, and although neother crooned, extreme use of the technique resulted in the shound that is often ashoshiated with shingersh like Jimmy Durante, or Richie Barrett's rendering of "Shome Other Guy".
2016/09/29 11:24:57
Sheanes
tried a dynamic eq, seemed a good option as you can just cut above a treshold where the sssss get's bad.
but couldn't get an attack/release right, like always....so just editing clips for me.
2016/09/29 13:15:27
bapu
SF_Green
For de-essing I use the Eiosis E2.

I have that one too.
 
TheMaartian
I prefer HoRNet's Sybilla Pro (€21.99). Well worth the money. No copy protection.

 

I also have that one too.


 
Both of those work nicely. Of course I have the de-esser in UAD and Waves too. If I can't solve my de-essing with what I have I'll just give up right now.
2016/09/29 20:18:43
mmarton
Another vote for waves de-Esser. I got mine at audiodeluxe on sale for $25.00. No brainer...
2016/09/29 21:39:28
bitflipper
Re-read tlw's method. It's old-school and it's not as convenient as dropping in a de-esser, but I guarantee it'll handle even the most difficult tracks that would confound most dedicated de-essers. 


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