KWILD

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I really don't see anything wrong with the initial question.  Honestly, I saw Studio One's integration a couple of days ago and was actually wondering the same thing.

In fact, and that was the purpose of the post.Then comes the same hilarious fanboys,and all became absurdly weird and OT!

Im here from 2003, never disrespect nobody, but things are changed badly on that forum!

There was nothing wrong with the original post. There was also nothing wrong with someone trying to be helpful and make you aware that VocalSync is integrated with ARA, yet you ridiculed that response and then turned the thread in a negative direction by going OT and calling VocalSync "a piece of crap," so of course those who use VocalSync frequently and successfully felt the need to correct you.
 
It's ironic that you would complain about taking the thread in a weird and OT direction after taking the thread in a weird and OT direction. You could have simply said you found VocALign more capable and better-suited to your needs, and explained why so that those who might be interested in it could benefit from your (presumed) experience with it. 
 
Telling people not to post here if they don't want sarcastic comments didn't help. It indicated you had no interest in a dialog, and your responses have borne that out. 

KWILD
Im here from 2003, never disrespect nobody, but things are changed badly on that forum!

This is true. You have been here since 2003, and you changed things badly by starting to disrespect somebody on this forum.

Anderton
 
There was nothing wrong with the original post. There was also nothing wrong with someone trying to be helpful and make you aware that VocalSync is integrated with ARA, yet you ridiculed that response and then turned the thread in a negative direction by going OT and calling VocalSync "a piece of crap," so of course those who use VocalSync frequently and successfully felt the need to correct you.
 

 
If the OP strolled into any of my various work areas (music or other) and told me my tools were crap - he would not be talking to a fanboy - he might wish he was talking to a fanboy. I think he's trolling, looking for a rise. He got a couple of pages. Yahoo for him.  The irony is his soundcloud page is focused on instrumentals. I don't know, that seems funny after all this noise about someone's vocal focused software. @OP - It's just software, go and be happy with it. Make many vocal alignments all day, climb a tree, run real fast. I'm happy for you.

Great sleuthing. I refuse to fact check.
 
amk

Hey, my middle name is OT.
(or is it?)

Well...i called VocalSync "a piece of crap" COMPARED to Vocalign coz it's what it is, COMPARED (repeat) COMPARED to Vocalign/ReVoice.Vocalsync it's a great tool but needs improvements, the Syncroarts products are light-years away!
When i've read that they support ARA i've posted the news hoping for a reply of a future development for Sonar too, i don't wanna hurt all the fanboys in the forum...English it's not my mother tongue,sometimes it's difficult to explain exactly what i wanna say...well i must post soon after the first reply with less sarcasm,i know,sorry,but after that...it's just fanboysm and sincerely,i got other more interesting stuff to do than arguing with them.

Over.
 
 
 
 
 

Next time, try saying something fact-based like "has fewer features" or "doesn't work as well with longer clips" or "doesn't need rendering to get a good preview" or whatever you feel the limitations are...anything that would help others in understanding your point of view, and from which they might learn something. The only thing anyone has learned from your posts is that you have an opinion for which you give no justification. There's nothing wrong with having opinions, but then complaining that others are also giving their opinions seems disingenuous. If you had presented facts, the discussion could have been fact-based.
 
In any event asking questions about what's under development is pretty much pointless. When Cakewalk is ready to tell what they're working on, it will be listed in the Rolling Updates page. Your post would have had a much better reception if you had said you hoped Cakewalk was working on ARA integration for VocaALign, because [whatever your reason is for thinking VocALign is wonderful]. Then there could have been a useful dialog about ARA, the strengths and weaknesses of various approaches to vocal syncing, etc. That way people could decide "Doesn't sound like VocALign doesn't do anything I can't already do with VocalSync" or "Wow, I could sure use [that particular feature he mentioned], I'll have to check it out." You would have contributed something valid, based on your (presumed) expertise.
 
You can't complain about others being "fanboys" when you're being a "fanboy" of VocALign. It's not their fault that VocalSync works for them. Opinions are most valid when the facts that form those particular opinions are part of a discussion.

i think maybe if instead of using the term "fanboy" we could maybe say some forum users are "over-sensitive to any criticism of sonar" maybe? if this were real-world meat-space stuff no-one would give unrealistic criticisms the time of day, but on a forum it's all just text... i don't think kwild is trolling, just not jumping through certain forum hoops

There is a high chance that Vocalign will work in SONAR since we support the full ARA specification. I have heard that they are testing it in SONAR.

pwalpwal
i think maybe if instead of using the term "fanboy" we could maybe say some forum users are "over-sensitive to any criticism of sonar" maybe? if this were real-world meat-space stuff no-one would give unrealistic criticisms the time of day, but on a forum it's all just text... i don't think kwild is trolling, just not jumping through certain forum hoops

Sometimes this PC (not referring to personal computers) stuff gets old. A poster calls a great feature of SONAR's a "piece of crap". Everybody else who jumps in to offer their experience with that tool is branded a "fanboy". The pattern repeats itself over and over on these forums - SONAR users are expected to grin and bear it as their DAW of choice is slogged. The idea that people who use and like SONAR have to be overtly sensitive to others who come to the forum and behave like jackasses (,oh, no did he say..... that?????) is ridiculous. This is not KVR.