Thanks Craig... for the share !   Looking forward to giving it a whirl .....  ;o)

OK , right off the top of my head ...first off , thank you for sharing this with us Craig
IMHO, There is a lot more here than meets the eye and ear ....
A person can take one of the chords , groove clip it and then while in the loop construction view they can use the pitch envelope function to modulate the chord along the lines of what a Funk / Blues /Jazz Guitarist would do when they hit a chord and slide it up or down a fret or two ... once you decide to go there the chordal articulations can become endless
example

in the above example, the A 13 chord slides up 4 semitones during the chords ring , then it comes back down to actual pitch ....
Now I'm just siting here having my morning cup of coffee while I'm doing this,  yet I can say the sonic results of that little experiment sounds just like what would happen if I grabbed my guitar , hit an A13 chord and slid it around
 
It goes with out saying that I could save that A 13 chord as a modified groove clip and save that to the library  
To make that happen I bounced the modified A13 to clip in the track view and I then re enabled it as a groove clip .
While in loop construction view I then saved it to my Audio Chord Library as a groove clip
 
that's just a taste for now ,
 
Kenny

Thanks for the link Craig......very much appreciated. 

kennywtelejazz
IMHO, There is a lot more here than meets the eye and ear ....
A person can take one of the chords , groove clip it and then while in the loop construction view they can use the pitch envelope function to modulate the chord along the lines of what a Funk / Blues /Jazz Guitarist would do when they hit a chord and slide it up or down a fret or two ... once you decide to go there the chordal articulations can become endless
example

in the above example, the A 13 chord slides up 4 semitones during the chords ring , then it comes back down to actual pitch ....

 
That's very cool! Thanks for the validation of "now that it's in the hands of creative people, you'll probably show me ways to use it I never considered." I'm going to have to try this.
 

Anderton

kennywtelejazz
IMHO, There is a lot more here than meets the eye and ear ....
A person can take one of the chords , groove clip it and then while in the loop construction view they can use the pitch envelope function to modulate the chord along the lines of what a Funk / Blues /Jazz Guitarist would do when they hit a chord and slide it up or down a fret or two ... once you decide to go there the chordal articulations can become endless
example

in the above example, the A 13 chord slides up 4 semitones during the chords ring , then it comes back down to actual pitch ....

 
That's very cool! Thanks for the validation of "now that it's in the hands of creative people, you'll probably show me ways to use it I never considered." I'm going to have to try this.
 

Thank you for the kind words , they certainly mean a lot too me coming from you
 
The type of treatment I gave your A 13 chord was something I discovered for myself a while back when recording my 8 string guitar into SONAR and using the loop construction tool ....
When I played a held Bass note on my 8 string  , I found that the loop construction tools in SONAR could mimic a mono phonic Moog type of bass thing with the bass register ...
This approach also works fantastic using a regular guitars register  it also works perfectly for giving polyphonic material like chords on a guitar a different type of slant / musical territory when it comes the the phrasing  and string attack
 
Done correctly it is easy to have the first note hit just like on a monophonic synthesizer and all the following notes of the phrase will be played legato ....
 
To reproduce that sound in SONAR , lets say you hit a low E note on your guitar , then you let it ring out for as long as one of your library chords ...once you turn this sound into a groove clip you can play around with changing the pitches of some of the individual slices in the loop construction tool ...
The super cool thing is that you can now do stuff like short range arpeggio's that will mimic what a synth will do while doing it's arp thing .
You could even go with playing off a scale or a group of pre set intervals of your choosing ....
The real beauty of this is approach once you add in the ability to change the gain , pan and pitch of every slice
the tone of your guitar is now doing what was traditionally the territory keyboard players held exclusively  ...
 
I hope you enjoy ,
 
 
Kenny
 
 

kennywtelejazz

Anderton

kennywtelejazz
IMHO, There is a lot more here than meets the eye and ear ....
A person can take one of the chords , groove clip it and then while in the loop construction view they can use the pitch envelope function to modulate the chord along the lines of what a Funk / Blues /Jazz Guitarist would do when they hit a chord and slide it up or down a fret or two ... once you decide to go there the chordal articulations can become endless
example

in the above example, the A 13 chord slides up 4 semitones during the chords ring , then it comes back down to actual pitch ....

 
That's very cool! Thanks for the validation of "now that it's in the hands of creative people, you'll probably show me ways to use it I never considered." I'm going to have to try this.
 

Thank you for the kind words , they certainly mean a lot too me coming from you
 
The type of treatment I gave your A 13 chord was something I discovered for myself a while back when recording my 8 string guitar into SONAR and using the loop construction tool ....
When I played a held Bass note on my 8 string  , I found that the loop construction tools in SONAR could mimic a mono phonic Moog type of bass thing with the bass register ...
This approach also works fantastic using a regular guitars register  it also works perfectly for giving polyphonic material like chords on a guitar a different type of slant / musical territory when it comes the the phrasing  and string attack
 
Done correctly it is easy to have the first note hit just like on a monophonic synthesizer and all the following notes of the phrase will be played legato ....
 
To reproduce that sound in SONAR , lets say you hit a low E note on your guitar , then you let it ring out for as long as one of your library chords ...once you turn this sound into a groove clip you can play around with changing the pitches of some of the individual slices in the loop construction tool ...
The super cool thing is that you can now do stuff like short range arpeggio's that will mimic what a synth will do while doing it's arp thing .
You could even go with playing off a scale or a group of pre set intervals of your choosing ....
The real beauty of this is approach once you add in the ability to change the gain , pan and pitch of every slice
the tone of your guitar is now doing what was traditionally the territory keyboard players held exclusively  ...
 
I hope you enjoy ,
 
 
Kenny
 
 

Very cool !  Good stuff ...look forward to getting into that territory in near future  ;o)
 

kennywtelejazz
The type of treatment I gave your A 13 chord was something I discovered for myself a while back when recording my 8 string guitar into SONAR and using the loop construction tool ....
When I played a held Bass note on my 8 string  , I found that the loop construction tools in SONAR could mimic a mono phonic Moog type of bass thing with the bass register ..

Since you're into this kind of thing, I'm sure you'll dig the Friday's Tip of the Week for Week 63 - SONAR's Audio (Yes, Audio!) Step Sequencer. It takes what you're talking about to another level.

Anderton
 
I hope it helps you write cool songs!

thank you very much, I pledge to do my very best!

Thanks for this.

Anderton

kennywtelejazz
The type of treatment I gave your A 13 chord was something I discovered for myself a while back when recording my 8 string guitar into SONAR and using the loop construction tool ....
When I played a held Bass note on my 8 string  , I found that the loop construction tools in SONAR could mimic a mono phonic Moog type of bass thing with the bass register ..

Since you're into this kind of thing, I'm sure you'll dig the Friday's Tip of the Week for Week 63 - SONAR's Audio (Yes, Audio!) Step Sequencer. It takes what you're talking about to another level.

Yes , I'm totally into this type of thing ....I dig thank you for taking the time to  teach me ...
 
I wanted to make sure that I went through your Friday's Tip of the Week for Week 63 before I came back here .
I have been doing everything in your lesson for some time with the exception of these 2 tips ...
 
" 13. You can of course select individual slices and change the decay for that slice, change attack, whatever…then bounce all the clips together to make a clip that reflects all the changes.
14. Of course there’s more you can do, but it’s late and that should take care of you for a while. Additional secrets lie deep within SONAR. Stay tuned. "
 
those two steps were new to me ...they are now on my short list of things I need to work on and get a lot better at doing ....
 
thank you 
 
Kenny