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2016/09/24 05:18:47
Bassman002
HI:)
 
I have an older file (3-4 years ago) and now at the start there's an error with PlugIns missing!
 
But:
 
In the Project I renamed the missing Synths and called them Bass and Organ, so now at loading the file Sonar is missing Bass and Organ:)
 
How can I find out which Synths I used years ago for that file?
 
Thanks a lot:)
Bassman.
 
2016/09/24 06:03:51
karhide
Do theyou have to be the same?

Sounds like you have enough detail in the name to be able to load a plugin and know what type of patch to use. If.you dimension installed it might be a good place to start.
2016/09/24 06:12:03
Bassman002
@karhide
 
For sure I have the mixed Wave and I can mix it again with similar Instruments, but I had a great sounding Organ and can't remember which synth it was. Don't know why I forgot to freeze the synths too:(
 
thanks,
Bassman.
 
2016/09/24 06:58:07
karhide
You never know it might turn out better than before!

I often go back to old projects and remix with newer tools and it's very refreshing and exciting almost like working on a new track :)
2016/09/24 08:38:23
bitflipper
No, there is no easy way to determine what synths were used.
 
(Here's one possible method: name associations appear to be in library.db, which can be viewed with a hex editor. User-supplied plugin names are preceded by an MD5 hash that corresponds to the clsidPlugMD5 value in the registry, which in turn identifies the original name of the DLL. Like I said, no easy way.)
 
Faced with your dilemma, I would substitute other instruments. As suggested above, it's quite likely the project would be improved. When I first got the OTS Rick bass I dropped it into an old throw-away project to test it out. It was such an enormous improvement that I ended up resurrecting the project, re-recording the bass part and remixing the whole thing. The end result was that a previously written-off project ended up being a finished song.
 
P.S. If we're talking traditional Hammond organ, grab VB3. It's only 50 bucks and the best Hammond emulation I've ever heard.
2016/09/24 12:24:40
Bassman002
@bitflipper
 
(Here's one possible method: name associations appear to be in library.db, which can be viewed with a hex editor. User-supplied plugin names are preceded by an MD5 hash that corresponds to the clsidPlugMD5 value in the registry, which in turn identifies the original name of the DLL. Like I said, no easy way.)
 
That's ugly yes:)  
 
Ok! I'll mix it with newer instruments, that's the easier way! 
 
Found 3 library.db`s but from other times I opened the file, so I can't find any organ in there f.e.  too difficult.
 
thank you;)
Bassman.
 
2016/09/24 13:00:17
karhide
@Bassman just have fun working on the new mix and let it take you somewhere new :) 
2016/09/24 13:31:45
slartabartfast
The easiest solution, if you can remember to do it, is to keep notes. There is a track text field that might be useful, or you can use a pen and paper log. 
 
While the advice to just start over when this happens is probably easier still, it flies in the face of the FIRST LAW OF SONAR:
The take that you cannot recover is always the best take you have ever heard. 
2016/09/24 22:21:38
tenfoot
slartabartfast
 
While the advice to just start over when this happens is probably easier still, it flies in the face of the FIRST LAW OF SONAR:
The take that you cannot recover is always the best take you have ever heard. 




Haha - and the magical transformation from average to ultimate take only ever happens after it is lost.
2016/09/25 01:38:05
Kev999
It's a pity that it's not possible to identify a missing softsynth by its unique VST ID. For missing fx plugins, you can double-click on the greyed-out plugin in the FX Bin to bring up a dialog box that includes the ID. But for VST softsyths in the Synth Rack, double-clicking doesn't bring up anything.
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