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2016/09/24 13:12:06
loesch
mid side processing jeff gswitz has a wonderful video on youtube that i needs more info on.anyone know how to get in touch with him or anyone else know this proceedure?i'm using sonar x 1.thanks in advance,
jack
2016/09/24 14:05:58
Wookiee
I tried googling the name you gave jeff gswitz

and it asked did I mean 
jeff gilwitz
jeff gewirtz
jeff jawitz
jeff saywitz

So which one are we talking about?
2016/09/24 14:19:50
gswitz
Hi. Thanks for liking the video.
 
What's your question? There are lots of people around here who can talk about the mid-side technique.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microphone_practice#M.2FS_technique:_Mid.2FSide_stereophony
 
http://www.uaudio.com/blog/mid-side-mic-recording/
 
This is a decent place to start.
2016/09/24 17:53:37
mettelus
^^^^ Geoff Switz sighting!!!!
2016/09/25 08:14:15
loesch

he's posted on this site a number of times.
i wants to do mix side processing in sonar.no mikes are evolved with the process i need to achieve.thanks for responses.
2016/09/25 19:41:47
gswitz
You are describing the video in which I used a mono reverb and panned it all left, and a polarity flipped copy panned all right... I link the faders and bring them up.
 
One of the interesting things to me in the video is that the balance stays slightly heavy on the positive polarity side. That means that you might offset the balance of the center track to adjust.
2016/09/26 11:34:09
loesch
hey mate:thanks for responding!!!!!!!!!!!the sound of your guitar on that video is outstanding!!!!!!!!!!!
what i've done so far
track 1 acoustic guitar recorded with shure sm 57.copy clip.pan hard left.
track 2 paste here.pan hard left.
track 3 paste here.insert a reverb.pan hard right
tracks 1,2,3 insert send to master.
on master buss insert channel tools.pan center.
this appears to be working???????
to adjust left side use mid gain and l gain.
to adjust l right side use side gain and r gain.

how to set up delay pre-post-off ?
delay left delay right ?
top left side which button to engage left phase----right phase---off.
delay pre---post--off?which one to use stereo---mid/side---or?

2016/09/26 20:50:29
gswitz
So... Mid Side controls in channel tools are a little odd and probably little understood.
 
Basically, the mid control brings polarity inverted copies of both channels up in the opposite channels.
 
The result is not quite the same as increasing the mono. Instead, as you reduce mid, you raise polarity inverted left in the right and the right in the left. The summing nulls some of what is shared in both channels.
 
This is often used to create a sense of space while making each side more audible in it's opposite. When you sum to mono it cancels exactly.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmTb8XqawP8
 
Have you watched this one?
2016/09/27 08:40:44
loesch
i watched that video but the sine wave doesn't like me ears.i don't know much recording terms so if ya can speak in general terms that would be a great thing!!
     so the set up below is that correct?i needs the how to do it not the background which i don't understand.
here is me music if ya goggle
mr.wavesample next page click on soundcloud tons of me original music.many styles.
thanks for on-going help.
 
 
track 1 acoustic guitar recorded with shure sm 57.copy clip.pan hard left.
track 2 paste here.pan hard left.
track 3 paste here.insert a reverb.pan hard right
tracks 1,2,3 insert send to master.
on master buss insert channel tools.pan center.
this appears to be working???????
to adjust left side use mid gain and l gain.
to adjust l right side use side gain and r gain.

how to set up delay pre-post-off ?
delay left delay right ?
top left side which button to engage left phase----right phase---off.
delay pre---post--off?which one to use stereo---mid/side---or?

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