I still do use a tactile control surface and I have a hard time imagining not using one, just what I'm used to I suppose.  I've adapted my Mackie d8b mixer as an MCU control surface using BluAudio's D8Bridge software. It's pretty decent but a couple things don't work quite as expected.  There's a new serial/MCU protocol hack for the Mackie d8b called ProBox just released by a guy in Austria that looks even more promising than the D8Bridge.  I love having banks of 24 faders/pots/mutes/solos/meters I can reach out and touch without having to look at a display.  But I'm an old guy with old ways...

bitSync
I still do use a tactile control surface and I have a hard time imagining not using one, just what I'm used to I suppose.  I've adapted my Mackie d8b mixer as an MCU control surface using BluAudio's D8Bridge software. It's pretty decent but a couple things don't work quite as expected.  There's a new serial/MCU protocol hack for the Mackie d8b called ProBox just released by a guy in Austria that looks even more promising than the D8Bridge.  I love having banks of 24 faders/pots/mutes/solos/meters I can reach out and touch without having to look at a display.  But I'm an old guy with old ways...

I don't know of any way you can ride 10 faders at once with a mouse (unless you group them, of course).

This is an old thread so I was wondering with all the improvements to Sonar do we now have the capability to use Consoles, Digital Mixers that integrate with Sonar as does ProTools and other DAW's?

Maybe one of these:
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MTi2http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MTi2

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patm300e
Maybe one of these:
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MTi2http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MTi2

I want to turn real knobs, not that I can afford an SSL console but I would like something in that family do mix with knobs and my ears verses in the box.  Have the ability to use compression, gate, eq the whole nine yards in my hands physically.  I am getting the feeling Sonar is not the best DAW for that which sucks because I just took the life time option not long ago. I love Sonar but now I am jealous of how ProTools uses external gear in comparison :(

BMOG

patm300e
Maybe one of these:
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MTi2http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MTi2

I want to turn real knobs, not that I can afford an SSL console but I would like something in that family do mix with knobs and my ears verses in the box.  Have the ability to use compression, gate, eq the whole nine yards in my hands physically.  I am getting the feeling Sonar is not the best DAW for that which sucks because I just took the life time option not long ago. I love Sonar but now I am jealous of how ProTools uses external gear in comparison :(

I have the VS-700 console. I also love the level of hardware integration that Avid provides for Pro Tools. However, Pro Tools on the PC is still kind of painful and I wouldn't risk building a business around it. With SONAR coming to the Mac and hopefully EUCON support along with it, getting an Avid console may eventually become feasible. In the meantime, if you really want tactile physical control, Softube's Console 1 is pretty sweet. The SSL emulations sound amazing. They also just released a Neve-based emulation which sounds equally great. SONAR will also soon seriously-enhance it's support for Console 1. There is also the Behringer X-Touch, but for me configuring those generic devices can be a major chore.
 
-e.B

e.Blue

BMOG

patm300e
Maybe one of these:
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MTi2http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MTi2

I want to turn real knobs, not that I can afford an SSL console but I would like something in that family do mix with knobs and my ears verses in the box.  Have the ability to use compression, gate, eq the whole nine yards in my hands physically.  I am getting the feeling Sonar is not the best DAW for that which sucks because I just took the life time option not long ago. I love Sonar but now I am jealous of how ProTools uses external gear in comparison :(

I have the VS-700 console. I also love the level of hardware integration that Avid provides for Pro Tools. However, Pro Tools on the PC is still kind of painful and I wouldn't risk building a business around it. With SONAR coming to the Mac and hopefully EUCON support along with it, getting an Avid console may eventually become feasible. In the meantime, if you really want tactile physical control, Softube's Console 1 is pretty sweet. The SSL emulations sound amazing. They also just released a Neve-based emulation which sounds equally great. SONAR will also soon seriously-enhance it's support for Console 1. There is also the Behringer X-Touch, but for me configuring those generic devices can be a major chore.
 
-e.B

Thanks for the information but if what you are saying is true then all the money I have invested in a PC is out the door. I am fan of logic personally but I did not want to move over to Mac. If I go to Mac then it won't be for Sonar just does not make sense to me but again thanks for the information

I agree with e.Blue, Softube's Console 1 would do what you want. Also, SONAR is EUCON compatible so it works with the Avid Artist Controllers (or at least they worked when I first tested them a few software revs ago). Mackie controllers work too...there are quite a few options.

Mackie MCU Pro , Don't know how I ever got along without it. An excellent piece of gear.