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  • MIDI/Instrument tracks playing the same parts as other MIDI/instrument tracks. [SOLVED]
2016/08/26 14:15:26
Samuel540
So, I don't get why there is an option to select None in the input drop-down menu on an instrument/MIDI track when it's actually OMNI!
Also, I wish there was a default MIDI input device option when creating instrument/MIDI tracks. This could be in the dialog box that pops up when inserting instruments.
 
Anyway. Currently, I'm battling an issue where MIDI/instrument tracks are also triggering other tracks (which are set to ONMI by default). I would start my project, insert an instrument and then record. When I insert the next instrument and hit play, that instrument plays what I previously recorded on the first instrument track... probably because it's set to OMNI by default, right?!.
 
I never had to deal with this problem before. I'm not sure what I did or what has changed but I really wouldn't like having to change the input of every instrument track I add from "None" (which is actually OMNI!) to my MIDI device of choice.
 
I don't get it. Where's the simplicity in something so basic?!
 
These nuisances can be very detrimental to a musician's inspiration and creative process.
 
Help, please?
2016/08/26 14:19:47
scook
Try disabling "Always Echo Current MIDI Track" in Preferences > MIDI > Playback and Recording
 
2016/08/26 14:22:25
scook
Also make sure "Enable MIDI Output" in the "Insert Soft Synth Options" dialog setup correctly for each synth. This is enabled by default for synth capable of sending MIDI when inserting synth using the menus and browser. The option always disabled when using the Add Track menu.
 
2016/08/26 14:55:55
Samuel540
scook
Try disabling "Always Echo Current MIDI Track" in Preferences > MIDI > Playback and Recording
 


I tried this but I preferred the "in-focus" approach as opposed to an "on-and-off" switch approach... the least amount of clicks to perform a task, the better.
2016/08/26 15:13:23
Samuel540
scook
Also make sure "Enable MIDI Output" in the "Insert Soft Synth Options" dialog setup correctly for each synth. This is enabled by default for synth capable of sending MIDI when inserting synth using the menus and browser. The option always disabled when using the Add Track menu.
 


I will look into this pretty soon.
 
Thanks!
2016/08/26 15:21:31
scook
Samuel540
scook
Try disabling "Always Echo Current MIDI Track" in Preferences > MIDI > Playback and Recording
 


I tried this but I preferred the "in-focus" approach as opposed to an "on-and-off" switch approach... the least amount of clicks to perform a task, the better.


I only mention the option because when enabled MIDI input on a track will switch from None to Omni, when the track gets focus. To me, the automatic input switch is less convenient than managing input echo manually.
2016/08/26 18:09:03
brundlefly
If you're going to use 'Always Echo...', you just need to ensure that you set a specific port and channel as input for every new MIDI/Instrument track as you add it. Once you do that the input will never again spontaneously change to  All Inputs - Omni.
2016/08/26 18:46:57
Anderton
Samuel540
scook
Also make sure "Enable MIDI Output" in the "Insert Soft Synth Options" dialog setup correctly for each synth. This is enabled by default for synth capable of sending MIDI when inserting synth using the menus and browser. The option always disabled when using the Add Track menu.
 


I will look into this pretty soon.
 
Thanks!



Let us know if the answers in this thread have solved your problem.
2016/08/27 12:25:08
Samuel540

I only mention the option because when enabled MIDI input on a track will switch from None to Omni, when the track gets focus. To me, the automatic input switch is less convenient than managing input echo manually.




I saw what you mean after I tried it a second time.
 
Well, somehow other projects (or at least the ones I created for the test) seem fine but when I went back to the original project, the problem was still there.
 
I'm confused as to why this is even happening... I checked all the MIDI outputs per instrument and they were all linked to the respective instrument so I can't understand why they are also controlling another track. Why are instrument tracks being controlled.......interrrrrnallyyy? That shouldn't be happening. Should it???
2016/08/27 12:32:23
Steve_Karl
Specific channel selection on your midi tracks seems like it might be important.

I always force midi out on the midi track to a specific channel even if it is channel 1 and there are no others present.
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