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2016/06/15 10:51:25
zabs291
I recently updated from Win 7 x64 to Win 10 Pro... and my Tascam US-1800 didn't really take to the new environment.  I had very odd occurrences where it would work flawlessly for about 10-15 minutes, then the audio signal would turn noisy and weak.  I troubleshooted, tweaked Win10 for audio, changed cables, ports, and even monitored the processor temperature thinking there could be overheating issues that are causing the problem (I have a virtually fanless system, but the temps never passed 42C - peaks around 50% processor usage).  With the US-1800 being discontinued,  I figure it's time to update, and upgrade.

I found that I used the Tascam as my audio card, rather than the interface (disabled all other audio drivers)... I primarily run VST's, so don't need inputs but for a couple of mics for acoustic guitar... I'm a piano guy, so latency is hugely important... running Ivory off a second SSD.  Also using Quantum Leap RA, and Sonar's suite of VST's.  
 
I'm looking for recommendations for a 24/192 interface that's STABLE with Win10 x64 and SPlat... was looking at the UAD Apollo Twin USB, but they seem to be more Thunderbolt folks than USB - I wonder how stable their WIN/USB products would be.  For some reason, I wanted to stay with USB3.0 (perhaps they'd be supported longer, I don't know what draws me in).  Anything in the Apollo price point is fair game.
 
Someone, talk me into something... I'm open to suggestions.
 
 
2016/06/15 10:52:28
zabs291
Sorry, system specs...
Sonar Platinum 64
Win10 Pro64
Intel i7-4771
16GB RAM
Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H
Corsair Force LE SATA III SSD 1TB
Zotac GEForce GT730 Fanless
TASCAM US-1800 USB
 
2016/06/15 10:59:09
Jim Roseberry
MOTU Ultralite AVB is a great choice
  • Low noise-floor
  • Super low round-trip latency
  • Extremely flexible routing/monitoring
 
Anything from RME is exceptionally good.
 
Apollo Twin USB is a nice audio interface.
Not the lowest round-trip latency... but pretty good.
Drivers are solid
2016/06/15 11:38:04
JonD
A couple of others to look at...
 
Zoom UAC-2/8 -- USB 3.  Very low latency.  Hasn't been out for long, but the few reviews available have been good.  Note that even though it's USB 2 compatible, you need to be on USB 3 to achieve low latencies.
 
Focusrite Scarlett Series (2nd generation) -- The first gen Scarlett series is still hugely popular, and the next gen promises improvements across the board.  The most significant of these are the cleaner specs and low latency.  The lower-end, bus-powered models are already out, but the top three models - 6i6, 18i8, 18i20 - aren't due for a few weeks yet.  (A few stores did get a couple of units early, so it *may* be possible to get one before the mass release).
2016/06/16 10:21:38
wst3
Depending on your budget, and your I/O requirements I can't recommend the Apollo Twin USB highly enough! In no particular order:
  • It has been rock solid for me using ASIO and WDM driver models.
  • It sounds great going in and out. And yes, I can hear a difference between different sample rates, I did not expect that! I still work mostly at 44.1k because the difference is small, but it is there, and I think I will be migrating to 96k as I wrap up old projects. Disk space is not so expensive anymore, and my computer does not complain.
  • I love the Unison models for preamplifiers and guitar amplifier sims.
I probably would not buy it just for Unison, but since it sounds great and it works that is a pretty nice bonus!

Only one minor quibble - you have to monitor the input side directly, which means near zero latency, which I'm not complaining about, but when I am not using plug-ins on the Apollo Twin I have to get clever to avoid hearing my input twice. It would be nice if they added a feature to disable input monitoring in the Apollo.
 
My other gripe is that 2 in is limiting, I really didn't think it would be, but  it is. My choices are limited, I can get an ADAT-S/Mux box to add 4 more inputs, or I can wait till they extend their aggregation to include USB and buy an Apollo rack mount interface. I prefer the later, but they don't seem to be in a hurry to do this.
 
Definitely look at the Apollo Twin USB. Billy Buck posts here sometimes and  I know he is using one too. There are certainly others as well.
2016/06/16 12:09:10
TerraSin
I've got the new Apollo Twin Duo USB and it works fantastically. Very stable and works very well.
 
As wst3 said, 2 inputs is limiting but if you're working mainly with plugins, you'll be fine.
2016/06/16 12:34:53
zabs291
Thank you guys for the recommendations and information... this is kind of a big purchase, and it is really nice to get some trusted advice from respected folks who are on the same platform.  I think I'm leaning toward the Apollo, and looking forward to getting my hands on some of their plugins too...  
 
Thanks again to all for the advice -

Mike
2016/06/25 06:42:55
MacFurse
zabs291
 
Thanks again to all for the advice -

Mike


Mike, just keep in mind the following, in case you have any further problems.
 
Win10, GeForce and USB.
 
Your system specs are very similar to my own. I gave up trying to get my Nvidia drivers to work with WIN10, SONAR, and USB devices, 2.0 or 3.0, now use onboard graphics only, and everything has been sweet since. The amount of people who have had similar problems to you, including your present interface, are enough for me to declare it's mostly a graphic's issue that relates directly to GT cards. It seems to come down to having exactly the right drivers, not necessarily the current ones, to get things harmonious, and it seems to change between what MB/CPU people have got. I only know I spent way too much time and paid way to much attention to issues on many forums, all coming down to one common thing, GT cards and the drivers.
 
I would suggest, unless you use your PC for other things, that you give serious consideration to removing and disabling all things GeForce, and see if your current interface begins to behave itself, if your happy with it otherwise. You certainly don't need dedicated graphics for SONAR with your current CPU as long as your MB supports your required monitor support. Most these days support 2 or 3.
 
I can highly recommend the Scarlett series too, and will be upgrading to the 2nd gen when it hits the shops. My next choice would be the Apollo.
 
I've since built a dedicated graphics/video editing PC with my GT card, which works brilliantly on it's own and with WIN10. Just wouldn't play with my interface or SONAR. Best of luck to you. Dave
2016/06/25 07:53:57
Billy Buck
I've been successfully using the new Apollo Twin USB for the past 3-4 months without any issues using similar specs (i7 4770K, Win 10 x64, SONAR Platinum x64). Recently added a Satellite OCTO USB and simply connected it to the same onboard USB 3.0 port pair as the Twin USB. It was quite seamless really. 
 
Cheers and good luck in your journey,
 
Billy Buck
2016/06/25 08:16:37
fret_man
RME is notorious for rock solid drivers and excellent pre's. Their UFX+ has USB 3.0.
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