• SONAR
  • Ehancement Request: Support for K-System metering
2006/10/06 18:17:37
barryspearce
I would like to set my playback and bus meters to support K-System Metering.

This means I really want the following features:

1. The ability to define the colour bands for the meters,
2. The ability to control the labelling of the meter - i.e. for a K-20 meter I want 0dBFS to
read +20, and for K-12 to read +12.

OR

Be able to select 'standard' 'K-20', 'K-14' and 'K-12' as the meters.

For instance, I want standard meters with 90dB scale for recording to check noise floors and peaks to avoid clipping during recording. However for mixing I want K-20 meters, and then for mastering I want K-14 or K-12 (or less often K-20) meters depending on the type of track I am working on.

Any chances? I notice many other products now support K-System Metering including Wavelab 6
which is my prefered editor and CD mastering tool.

CAKEWALK REPLIED:
"I will send your feature request to the proper department. You may want to post this on the SONAR forum as well. The more
people that see the request, the more likely its implementation may be"

So, here I am making it public. Anyone else looking for these metering changes?

Cheers,
Barry

2006/10/06 19:08:49
Billy Buck
Yes, I would love to see K-Meter support in SONAR. Right now I use my Precison Limiter, on the master bus. Not so much for it's limiting, but for it's excellent K-Metering system support (selectable K-12, K-14 & K-20) & precise metering.
2006/10/06 21:58:51
tunekicker
I'd like to see this feature as well. Reading Bob Katz's "Mastering Audio: the Art and the Science" was all the convincing I needed on the value of the K-system.

Peace,

2006/10/06 22:32:07
Xavier
This would definately be a nice feature to have. I'm all for it.

As it stands now it is easy for me to mentally think of -20 dBFS as Zero dB while mixing. Then while mastering I just use the Free Voxengo Span to see the RMS and PRMS levels in whatever K-System I need.

I support the standard fully and would like to see it incorporated in all digital software and hardware.
2006/10/07 01:21:53
jungfriend
Count me in too. I use Elemental Audio InspectorXL for this metering function but would happy to have it built into Sonar.

Paul
2006/10/07 06:47:35
ooblecaboodle
remember that the K-system is not simply a different scale, it has different ballistics too. it is intended to give a better estimation of the overall loudness of a track.
Also, to use it properly, you should callibrate your monitoring levels.
2006/10/07 12:38:57
tarsier
Yes, I want K-Metering in Sonar as well. At the very least, they need to make the metering options much more customizable. They have the ballistics options there, but color and scale and such needs to be adjustable.

And it still annoys me that you can't adjust the reference point of Sonar's RMS meters. A -14 dBFS peak sine tone will read -17 on Sonar's RMS meters, whereas I would like it to read -14 as per the AES-17 specification. (unless they've changed that in Sonar 6)
2006/10/08 00:27:31
mwd
I second the EA Inspector XL. The 90 something page instruction manual alone was worth the cost. I think the Cakewalk meters are a perfect compliment to the K-System. Track with Cake and playback with K-System.
2006/10/08 00:43:03
higain_guitar
Yeah I'd like the K metering too for now I use voxengo elepant for k metering
2006/10/08 04:36:30
pgw
Another vote!
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