I think, for me, the thing I regret or miss, is that if I uncheck all the sort options and redo the basic start up template, I'll still find the Cakewalk generic folder designation in place.  I know, all I have to do is uncheck the sort options and things are back to normal, But, it's that familiar common concern of having to take an extra step that you didn't have to do before.  Hardly something to make a major complaint about until you consider the potential collective of extra steps as software evolves.  In my case, I've been putting off designing custom lists for too long, so I guess it's time to get started on that project for better organization of my plugins.  I'm happy with Cakewalk and the many improvements they have made. 

I actually like it. It's one of my favorite new features. I mean seriously, who wants to sift through tons of plugins just for a simple reverb? When you can jut go to reverb section and pic one. So much easier.

fantiniI know, all I have to do is uncheck the sort options and things are back to normal

Please! Look my pic one: this you call "back to normal"?

Let me get this straight.. you cant tell me why the PIM doesn't work properly (allows a lot of mistakes), but you can +100500 this guy ?

Unfortunately, I did not speak very well in English. And I find it hard to describe all the details. But one of the glitches it is the loss of some plugins from the user menu - in Sonar PluginManager plugin I see, and on the menu not.. And nothing is not corrected. I'm tired of fighting with this glitch. So I installed the plug-ins are not a default, and to the desired me folder. This order Sonar sees correctly and in my opinion.
Now Sonar does not see my folders properly. In new sorting methods not see separately VST2 and VST3 - they are now jumbled.

stevec
I must be the type of user CW had in mind, because I actually like the new system. 

+1  I'm with Steve.  The new layout solved a few problems with my plugs.

Steinberg specified that VST3 would categorize plug-ins. Companies are now transitioning to that model (many already have) because VST3 effects are becoming more common. If you have an issue with a fundamental trend to categorization, you need to take that up with Steinberg. Cakewalk is basically aligning itself with the VST3 specification.
 
However given that categorization allows for flexibility, as it does with the current browser architecture, to me that's an improvement because all my efforts with the PIM were about categorizing plug-ins the way I wanted them. Now they start off that way so all I need to do is tweak, not start from scratch. And I still have access to my previous layouts.
 
The bottom line is I can find the plug-ins I need when I need them, so I just don't see the big deal although of course I realize it is for some people.
 
 

Vyacheslav
In new sorting methods not see separately VST2 and VST3 - they are now jumbled.

good point. I also see something similar to this in my menus as well.
it really is an upgrade though. like I said, some of it im not particularly fond of and I like the older menu structure more. but it also may be a case where its going to take some time for this to benefit us (in the long run).
 
for now. I have found ways to re categorized in the box.
 
For example: open the browser and right click on a plug in.
you will see a nice pop up menu that lets you sort plug ins from right there.
im more of a plug in menu person. so I don't like using the browser for plug ins. but if you categorize there, you wont need to use the browser, you can still use the plug in drop down menus.
good luck man

chuckebabyFor example: open the browser and right click on a plug in.
you will see a nice pop up menu that lets you sort plug ins from right there.

Thank you. I know. But I do not want to do sort again. I just want to work in their work environment. But Cakewalk broke it, destroyed. Again, I spend time in the plugin search, correct me now, instead of having to work as before.
I remain in version 22.7.0.41. And now I doubt that I will extend the subscription for another year.

im more of a plug in menu person. so I don't like using the browser for plug ins. but if you categorize there, you wont need to use the browser, you can still use the plug in drop down menus.

I do not like to use the browser. I never used it. Because the browser is not necessary for my sorting method.

good luck man

OK!

Return sorting method Default All Plugins!

Pleeeeease!
 
Just do it!
 

Vyacheslav
Thank you. I know. But I do not want to do sort again. I just want to work in their work environment.

 
VST3 is going to replace VST2 eventually, and Steinberg decided that categorization is the way to go. Cakewalk cannot change the VST3 spec. However, Cakewalk can - and did - provide the tools to arrange the plug-ins any way you want.
 
I realize you don't want to sort again, but if you spend an hour (or probably less) creating the exact layout you want in the Plug-In Manager and save it, then you can call it up any time. I did that one afternoon many years ago, and aside from adding to it periodically, it's still what I use for most of my projects.
 

Now, if only you could right-click on a plugin to add it to the current track/bus. Dragging it across two screens sort of blows, so I'm sticking to my custom menus for now. I'm guessing that there will be no enhancements to the Plugin Manager?
 
Regards,
Dan

Anderton

Vyacheslav
Thank you. I know. But I do not want to do sort again. I just want to work in their work environment.

 VST3 is going to replace VST2 eventually, and Steinberg decided that categorization is the way to go. Cakewalk cannot change the VST3 spec. However, Cakewalk can - and did - provide the tools to arrange the plug-ins any way you want.

Handy way to me now is not present - need me how to sort simply deleted.

I realize you don't want to sort again, but if you spend an hour (or probably less) creating the exact layout you want in the Plug-In Manager and save it, then you can call it up any time. I did that one afternoon many years ago, and aside from adding to it periodically, it's still what I use for most of my projects.

I repeat... - Sonar PluginManager does not work properly and allows a lot of mistakes.