I just stumbled on this from Apogee: http://www.apogeedigital.com/products/groove 
 
Rocky

bluzdog
I just stumbled on this from Apogee: http://www.apogeedigital.com/products/groove 
 
Rocky

Nice. But $600! Wow.

Does the apogee have full asio drivers?
 
gabo

I was going to suggest Cambridge Audio DACMagic XS....but yours is 8 bits better- congrats

Good lord-- asio4all,,, now you've buggered your laptop for use with a real interface  :) 
 
I still don't get it///What was so bad about your laptops headphone output? 
I find what's important is the headphones. 

Cactus Music
Good lord-- asio4all,,, now you've buggered your laptop for use with a real interface  :)

not here! as well as using asio4all for the onboard realtek and an alesis kbd, i also use an edirol ua-1000 (a so-called "real interface" with its own dedicated asio driver) without any issue whatsoever; i have done this across multiple machines and windows versions for many years - i really don't understand all the hate in this forum for such a useful and free utility

"Nice. But $600! Wow."



Apogee is never cheap.

Agreed that it is a very good utility driver for when companies do not supply anything at all. But years of helping trouble shoot issues with drivers on this forum has left me with plenty of examples of when it took over and caused conflicts. Of course this will not always be the case.
But often when someone reports that Sonar is not recognizing the ASIO driver for their interface we have found asio4all was installed on that machine too. Removal of asio4all usually solved this issue.
So asio4all needs to be installed as a last resort and with some caution if you are also using a proper interface. Every system is different.
Myself I've never had to use it as I find not problems just using my on board audio and MME mode to muck about when traveling.
I also use a $30 Behringer UCA 200 for live gigs playback. It seems to work fine with Sonar and shows as a "USB audio codex" device. No headphones however.
 
But like all these types of devices without ASIO drivers, if you perform a loop back test you will find your track offset way out of sync. So all fine and dandy for listening but don't attempt overdub recording without ASIO in Sonar.

By the way voicemeeter also does the same thing asio4all does.. I started using it because you need it if you want to do screencaptures of sonar and have both the sonar audio and your microphone audio show up on the video capture..
 
gabo