• SONAR
  • Superior Drummer With Platinum (latency of each individual channel)
2016/09/16 15:23:48
jason33
I am running SD 2 and just a little confused how to set this up. I insert it using: softsynth>toonshare>sd2. and its in multichannel mode and all.
Then it lays down 18 tracks and then a separate  track(track 19) which I assume everything is being bounced onto, being there is nothing to be seen on the wav files(or whatever) from 1-19.  Anyway..
After recording, track 19's recording sounds like a mess, like a crazy out of sync all over the place timing recording. Its not just late, each peice is playing at a different time.  Each of the channels (1-19) i guess have their own latency going on.  What steps do i have to go through to fix this?
Thanks
 
2016/09/16 15:38:56
reginaldStjohn
Each track that it creates can be used to output the audio from a different drum piece, bus output, or output within the SD2 mixer.  You can choose what goes out to what track. This allows you to use your own effects on the individual drum parts.
 
There should also be a midi track where the midi information is input to SD2 in order to trigger the drum hits. Within SD2 you can map the drums to whatever SD2 outputs you want. There are some presets in there as well. You also need to map each track in Sonar to receive its audio from the desired output from SD2.
 
There are several videos that can be searched for that show how to map the outputs in SD2.
 
Here is one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh7Re9tWexU
 
I would suggest looking at a couple of these to understand what is going on.
2016/09/16 15:43:44
jason33
yes, The tracks are 1-18  and 19 is the midi track. But each channel has latency and so track 19's recording sounds like a mess of notes
2016/09/16 15:50:57
reginaldStjohn
There must be something else going on because I have never heard of or experienced that before. When you say track 19's recording do you mean when you play back the midi that is recorded?  
 
Do you have a midi keyboard or other way to trigger midi? If you do you can select the midi track, assuming you have your midi keyboard setup, and hit notes on the keyboard. You should hear the drums sound. Do any of them sound delayed?
 
When you open up SD2 and mouse click on the drums do you hear them play?  Do you notice any delay when you hit different drums?
 
Another thing to try is to create a midi track (your track 19 I guess in this case) and just add a few midi notes for say a snare hit one every measure. Then hit play and you should see the playback head cross the midi notes and hear the drum hit at about the same time.
2016/09/16 16:00:19
brundlefly
I'm not sure why latency would be different on different channels, but soft synth recording is not compensated for audio latency like recording from a hardware inputs. You can try lowering your buffer to minimize the latency, but it would be better to just freeze/bounce the audio rather than using synth recording. Synth recording is only necessary when you want to capture a live performance while tweaking synth parameters that can't be easily automated.
 
- If you're rendering audio from existing MIDI you should just freeze the synth.
- If recording while performing live on a controller, record the MIDI track, and then freeze the synth.
- If you're recording audio from a pattern being played internally, drag that pattern out of SD2 into the MIDI track and freeze the synth.
2016/09/16 16:03:44
jason33
reginaldStjohn
There must be something else going on because I have never heard of or experienced that before. When you say track 19's recording do you mean when you play back the midi that is recorded?  
 
 
When you open up SD2 and mouse click on the drums do you hear them play?  
 



Yes to both..  They play fine. Then i listen back to the recording (track 19 and ...)
2016/09/16 16:11:05
jason33
I think I figured it out.  Seems Sonar made and armed 2 extra tracks and it started recording on those also.. Not sure why they were playing out of sync with my one track but anyway. I guess I can only record one track at a time on this thing, which is fine with me because thats all I do but, yea
2016/09/16 16:42:00
jason33
Hmm one more question
Should be so simple but.  How do I export my drum track to wav? I just want to export the drumming....I selected the track,  I went to file, and 'exported audio' but I get a silent wav when I play it in media player
2016/09/16 17:51:11
Bristol_Jonesey
Don't select anything, in fact hit ctrl + shift + a to explicitly Select Nothing, now do your export
2016/09/16 17:51:56
jason33
Ok thanks
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