• SONAR
  • Whohooo! I rewired Notion 4 and Sonar Successfully! Notation for Sonar!
2013/02/21 19:23:42
Jimbo 88
Had a free day finale!   This was simpler than i thought,  should have figured this out long ago.  Did so with the help of Brian at Notion.  This is all 64 bit.
 
you need LoopBe1
 
http://www.nerds.de/en/loopbe1.html
 
 
Still workin on small workflow details,  but goes like this:
 
Load Sonar 
Rewire Notion 4
Notion 4   load staff from "External Midi"
In Notion4 go to Preferences> midi and set Port A  to go to LoopBe1
In Sonar load a soft synth patch and the midi input to be from LoopBe1 and the corresponding midi channel
 
The midi channels in Sonar need to have Echo On...the blue button lit up.
 
Bouncing midi to audio does not work so when you are ready to mix you must record your rewired midi track tracks into Sonar.
 
i hope Jerry will be happy...
 
 
 
 
 
2013/02/21 19:41:27
John
How is rewire involved?
2013/02/21 19:53:17
Bill Jackson [Cakewalk]
This is a good tip.  Ultimately, I'd like to see Notion transmit MIDI data via the ReWire protocol.  But this does the trick.  

John, ReWire keeps Notion and SONAR synced up, so they play from the same location at the host tempo.
2013/02/21 19:56:20
Jimbo 88
You can create a score in Notion,  Rewire it to Sonar and have it play and folow along.  Now with the midi ported in and rewired you can use Notion's notation abilities to work inside Sonar.

Just getting started...i'll see if I can do Sibelius also.
2013/02/21 20:19:41
John
Thanks Bill and thanks Jimbo.
2013/02/21 20:49:19
js516
Thats great! I was banging my head against the table for a while trying to figure out how to get Notion's midi output into Sonar. Simply trying to export work from Notion into a midi file was not working very well (lots of extra notes, especially when notion hits a repeat section where you have alternate section endings). 

Thanks Jimbo! 
2013/02/24 17:16:13
swamptooth

OOPS NEVERMIND!!! - sorry didn't see that earlier update!  lol.

@js516 - have you tried sending midi out to loopmidi then into sonar via the same loopmidi port??

http://www.tobias-erichse../software/loopmidi.html
2013/02/24 18:21:32
js516
I have a full version of loopbe that came with Harmony Navigator, so I can use that. I tried rewireing Notion and Sonar a while ago, but I could get it to work and gave up. Since I can export the parts as midi (working within the limitations and bugs in Notion's midi export), I never bothered to reattempt it.

But now I see that MIDI was never output from Notion through Rewire, so it wasn't me. :)
It makes sense now, so I can try it again when I my projects workflow requires it.
2013/02/24 18:42:35
Jimbo 88
ahhh...I'm not so excited anymore.   This works and everything,  but since you have to "echo" the midi channels, it is really hard to work midi inside Sonar and Notion at the same time..a little clunky.

2013/02/24 18:57:32
Funkybot
Bill Jackson [Cakewalk
]

Ultimately, I'd like to see Notion transmit MIDI data via the ReWire protocol.  But this does the trick.  



Ultimately I'd like to see Sonar either 1) update their staff view to get it to the point where it's usable for basic notation tasks, or 2) make a licensing arrangement with the Notion folks to replace the existing Staff View functionality with a stripped down version of Notion.


Sorry Bill, couldn't pass up the opportunity...
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