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  • Blue Tubes Expander Gate GX622
2016/09/09 08:23:36
LittleStudios
Has anyone noticed that the Threshold control is completely mirrored.  For example, as a test because I thought I was losing my mind, I ran a 1000hZ Sine Wave at -6dB through the plugin.  With the Threshold set to 0dB, you would expect to hear nothing, the gate would remain closed.  Well that is not the case, the gate was wide open.  Just the opposite was true when the Threshold was set to -70dB, you would think the gate would be wide open, but it was slammed shut. No sound.  According to the control knob and value displayed by the plugin, the value at which the gate was opening and closing was around -50dB.
 
I contacted Nomad Factory to ask what was up.  I'm not sure if I explained what is happening well as it can be a bit confusing.  I can post a couple screen grabs if it helps.
 
Chris
LittleStudios
2016/09/09 14:50:46
reginaldStjohn
I don't think I have used that plug-in but I would agree that it sounds a bit backwards. I are sure there is not some kind of switch or something that would make it behave this way rather than the expected way?
2016/09/09 15:37:07
LittleStudios
I've looked at every setting in the plugin, as well as the manual.  Even after speaking with Nomad Factory's tech support, no luck.  I don't think Nomad Factory or Cakewalk is aware.  Later tonight I'm either going to post screen grabs or post a video to youtube and link it here showing this odd behavior.  If anyone gets a chance and has this plugin, test it out with a known signal and amplitude and let me know what you find.
2016/09/10 09:31:56
LittleStudios
ok so apparently I'm too "new" to post a link to my channel or to embed the video.  I will post again and see if I can get enough posts to where it will allow me to put a link.
2016/09/10 09:33:11
LittleStudios
First try, embedding the video:
Nope that didn't work
2016/09/10 09:34:14
LittleStudios
Here's a link to the video on my channel:
https://youtu.be/EViMzPb5CaA
It's in 1080p
 
 
2016/09/10 10:09:42
Pragi
Yep, 
I can confirm 
that theExpander/Gate  is working in an oppsed way than 
expected. The thresh at - 70 db nearly completely closes the gate .
On an AD loop it led the kick pass through.
 
????  
 
 
2016/09/10 10:28:38
Kamikaze
Yep. Ran it through FX chains to see if one would cause the other to change direction. It didn't.
2016/09/10 10:39:19
Anderton
It looks to me like it's a problem with the graphics. I would expect that turning clockwise would raise the threshold, and go more toward zero. If the scaling was reversed so -70 was full CCW and 0 was CW, then I think it would make more sense. Unfortunately there's no "resources" folder with the graphic elements that would allow altering this.
2016/09/11 11:33:40
LittleStudios
Well I contacted the Nomad Factory tech support and gave them links to this forum and to my video on YouTube. Also started a topic on the Nomad Factory forums. We'll see what happens. I do have a question though, let's say Nomad Factory addresses this issue with an update. How do Sonar users who got these plugins bundled with Sonar get the update?
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