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2016/06/15 10:07:07
jpaul
Hello,
 
Is there a way to simply generate a simple sine-wave tone around 18kHz with the standard instruments included with Sonar X3 Producer? I Googled and spend a bit of time in some of the synths, but couldn't figure it out with the time I put in thus far, but it seems to me like it should doable.
 
Also, I want to use this tone to help "train" the rude neighbor's untrained barking dogs (and perhaps the neighbor), so will this tone likely fail to transfer through exporting from Sonar to say a .wav file and out my tweeters?
 
thanks,
 
Paul
2016/06/15 11:02:23
dwardzala
Not sure what type of speakers you have, but if you are older than 25-30 you will likely not be able to hear it.  Whether or not your neighbors' dogs can hear it is another story.
2016/06/15 11:25:22
Mystic38
not gonna ask why, but my silly idea?
 
VA VST with sinewave and note of c#10 is 17740Hz.. 
2016/06/15 22:31:12
Keni
Hmmm... What happened to my post?

I mention that a while back a cakewalk user write a plugin that functioned as a tone generator to either a selected freq or a sweep...

I can't remember either the author or plugin's name at the moment but I'm thinking it is called Tone...

Maybe someone else remembers more?

This isn't the one I was referring to, but maybe it will help?

http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3227438
2016/06/15 23:46:47
promidi
jpaul
Hello,
 
Is there a way to simply generate a simple sine-wave tone around 18kHz with the standard instruments included with Sonar X3 Producer? I Googled and spend a bit of time in some of the synths, but couldn't figure it out with the time I put in thus far, but it seems to me like it should doable.
 
Also, I want to use this tone to help "train" the rude neighbor's untrained barking dogs (and perhaps the neighbor), so will this tone likely fail to transfer through exporting from Sonar to say a .wav file and out my tweeters?
 
thanks,
 
Paul




You don't even need sonar to do this.  I use http://www.tropicalcoder.com/ASIOTestSigGen.htm  This will do exactly what you need.  Also, even though you cannot hear the 18 khz tone , you can get a phone app (I use a thing called "Speedy Spectrum Analyzer" on a Samsung Galaxy s4) that can make sure that it is being generated properly and at the correct frequency. 

I guess, for you, the thing is make sure that the sound has enough grunt to reach your neighbours dog - again using that handy cell phone app. Just be ware that your neighbours dog won't be the only critter affected by this.
2016/06/16 02:57:19
rmfegley
promidi
 Just be ware that your neighbours dog won't be the only critter affected by this.



Yep, could also clear out any pesky teenagers hanging around, too
2016/06/16 03:08:04
mettelus
Also be aware that higher frequencies attenuate most easily; you are most likely not going to get the range you anticipate, especially if it is not direct line of sight. Another reason for this is you cannot get a "100W speaker" to put all 100W into a single frequency.
 
As promidi mentioned, you would want to not only generate the signal, but also check the received level at range to assess properly.
2016/06/16 13:05:03
mixmkr
record the dawgs....play it back down a 1/2 octave...slowed down maybe a tad...thru a "concert capable" PA might do a similar task. 
2016/06/16 13:18:28
Pragi
Could be Sweepgen,a tone generator-
Don´t remember if that is exactly what you are looking for,
but it´s been helpful for me a lot of times.:
 
http://onlinetonegenerato...y-sweep-generator.html
2016/06/16 16:06:04
jpaul
Thanks for all the recommendations. I believe my plan may be hindered by the "you cannot get a "100W speaker" to put all 100W into a single frequency" thought from mettelus.
 
I have set-up a couple of 100W tweeters attached to separate 2-3 foot lengths of PCV (to help guide the noise only to the target problem dogs), driven by a cheap 200W car amp. But in my initial tests, the dogs don't seem to notice. I could buy more speaker wire and move the speakers closer--that may be the least expensive option. I don't know if there are inexpensive transducers that would squeal out a tone around 20KHz loud enough to reach these dogs (about 50 yards).
 
Also, in my initial test, the audio I exported and sent to my iPod for playback contained a lot of periodic clicks--not sure if this came from an exporting artifact (44.1k sample rate to a wav file) or from the limitations of the iPod, but I didn't hear it directly from my DAW.
 
Thanks again for the help!
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