MANTRASKY
I really love my Sonar DAW but I have to say that "Many" people I know in the music industry are angry that things like this happen and I have to say that I'm a little taken back by this! I felt I was coming to the last moment where I "had to make a decision?" Many feel "what next?" again when the end date comes will it be extended?? then someone from Cakewalk will "Justify" the reasoning to Sonar Members??? I understand money situations can be tough, I have a mortgage & bills like most and Yes that still doesn't stop me from spending thousands on music instruments. Today most people "Don't Trust" businesses, the manipulation for more money One way or another and yet "I bought the Lifetime Upgrade?". After like most Sonar Members that have spent "Thousands" since the early years are now worried "What's Next???" these extensions only fuel the fear that people will be manipulated out of MORE MONEY for "Base-Level" or Core upgrades that are no more than "Theme's & Fixes?" I want to be "optimistic" and believe that Sonar hasn't changed like the "Gaming Industry" (whole other subject) which I have family working as designers/developers/programmers tell me about EA, Activision, Komami and milking more and more money.
 
As I said earlier "I do love Sonar" I've had such a great experience with it, very very little to no Lockups & Freezes, and I was a longtime ProTools HD user and before that Ampex/Studer 2" 30ips tape. I can go anywhere with any DAW, but I'll support Sonar because I believe it's That-Good!

Right this: "i had to make a decision" situation make's me angry. "Hurry! This is your last opportunity to lock in this incredible deal." So, however, i could have spend those 200 euros with my children at summer time, but no i was so selfish and i spend my limited money to incredible Update deal. Why? Because I really thought that I lose this great chance after August 31. And now i realize there was not hurry at all for me. I just thought so. Maybe I'll buy something nice for my children in December and I am less selfish.

odyssey70, Your Kids should always come FIRST! but I understand, I hope for the best.

Welcome to the "real" world friends.
Software marketing is a tough business.
It used to be no one paid retail for automobiles or musical instruments.
Unless of course you were financing same.
Music software; buyer beware!
Who pays "retail" for say Waves or UAD plugins; only fools.
T

MANTRASKY
I really love my Sonar DAW but I have to say that "Many" people I know in the music industry are angry that things like this happen and I have to say that I'm a little taken back by this! I felt I was coming to the last moment where I "had to make a decision?" Many feel "what next?" again when the end date comes will it be extended?? then someone from Cakewalk will "Justify" the reasoning to Sonar Members??? I understand money situations can be tough, I have a mortgage & bills like most and Yes that still doesn't stop me from spending thousands on music instruments. Today most people "Don't Trust" businesses, the manipulation for more money One way or another and yet "I bought the Lifetime Upgrade?". After like most Sonar Members that have spent "Thousands" since the early years are now worried "What's Next???" these extensions only fuel the fear that people will be manipulated out of MORE MONEY for "Base-Level" or Core upgrades that are no more than "Theme's & Fixes?" I want to be "optimistic" and believe that Sonar hasn't changed like the "Gaming Industry" (whole other subject) which I have family working as designers/developers/programmers tell me about EA, Activision, Komami and milking more and more money.
 
As I said earlier "I do love Sonar" I've had such a great experience with it, very very little to no Lockups & Freezes, and I was a longtime ProTools HD user and before that Ampex/Studer 2" 30ips tape. I can go anywhere with any DAW, but I'll support Sonar because I believe it's That-Good!

im not sure if you read the whole thread here, but the deal is NOT the same.
it is no longer 99.00 dollars for the upgrade. it is now 199.00. so those who took advantage of the deal (that expired on Aug 31) got sonar for a reduced price compared to users who purchase it now.
 
im not sticking up for sonar here, I have no reason too. 
im just using every day logic. many company's out there extend their promotions. Many company's do this.
not just Sonar. however, in this case, if you bought sonar by Aug 31st, you got it for a reduced price compared to users who buy it now thru Dec 31st.
 
so its not the same deal. but would it be so bad if it was ? what about those who couldn't afford it and were hoping for a few more weeks to get the money ? I don't have a problem with it. if anything I would be happy other users would have that extra time.
 aren't you ?

chuckebaby, apparently you didn't read My statement!!! I have Sonar Platinum and I had to pay 199.99 not 99.00 and that was before the Deadline! I have No problem with the Lifetime Upgrade weather now or later!!! I sympathize people with money situations as I have people to take care of! but You seem to want to "Read-in-between" the lines and suggest that I do????
 
I make a statement that many industries because of economy, globalization and or Monetization do what they do,
and I get this? "Everyday Logic???"
 
I get this even though I stated that I support Sonar!
 
Thanks.

MANTRASKY
chuckebaby, apparently you didn't read My statement!!! I have Sonar Platinum and I had to pay 199.99 not 99.00 and that was before the Deadline! I have No problem with the Lifetime Upgrade weather now or later!!! I sympathize people with money situations as I have people to take care of! but You seem to want to "Read-in-between" the lines and suggest that I do????
 
I make a statement that many industries because of economy, globalization and or Monetization do what they do,
and I get this? "Everyday Logic???"
 
I get this even though I stated that I support Sonar!
 
Thanks.

My apology's I read your comment wrong. that was quite a reply .
I deserved it.  sorry again.
 

I'm sorry if I came off a bit odd! So many people say "this is a Scam" it's to good to be true! I believe in Cakewalk and "I love Sonar" So as I stated I'll continue to support them!

I had also spent $$ that I really didn't have, but so be it, that was no one's decision but my own.  No one forced me at gun point to spend money on a software purchase that I really wanted anyway...   So I feel good about the fact that others (such as Kenny) will still have the opportunity to join the lifetime club since their summer finances simply did not allow it.  
 
Oh.... I also feel good that had I waited, my $99 purchase would have been $199 today.  

MANTRASKY
I'm sorry if I came off a bit odd! So many people say "this is a Scam" it's to good to be true! I believe in Cakewalk and "I love Sonar" So as I stated I'll continue to support them!

no need, this was my fault :-)
typically these type of threads, the passion comes flying out of us .
and I truly feel bad for those who didn't get to update in time (before the deadline) because maybe they didn't have the money..I know I've been there. The paranoia is getting out of control (I guess I need to include myself in that )
Have a nice weekend MAN.
 

Hey Mantrasky,
 
We're most certainly not going to be "manipulating anyone out of their money". We have had a strong track record of delivering excellent value for what you pay for and we don't plan to stop! Wouldn't that be the dumbest thing we could do considering that we introduced lifetime updates and now do not have definite yearly upgrade revenue?
 
Our goal is to get more new users to understand this value of getting lifetime updates as well as continue to innovate and add even more powerful features and add ons to the platform. Many of these innovations will be free to lifetime users but some will be sold as add ons. For example we have some great new (free) features coming up in the next update that would normally be only in a new product.
 
We value the support from loyal users like you and everyone has a choice. We're definitely not forcing anything down anyone's throat. We've been doing annual membership since Jan 2005 and its almost two years now. I would hope that our track record of delivering value speaks for itself. We've released much more than we've ever done in the history of the product.