Thanks Craig. Oh yeah, Obedia, now I remember. Two years ago I need them and the head guy called me right back. Unfortunately, since I wasn't buying a new system from him, I couldn't get back the answers from his in subsequent emails and calls that he promised to research on whether or not my Clevo case and current MOBO would support 16 Gigs of memory. After many attempts to contact them with no response, I finally figured it out. It would support up to 8 gigs, so I bought them, installed them and also upgraded the processor to the fastest that MOBO would support. Was kind of disappointed about that experience with Obedia.
Also, the problem seems to be on both AUDIO only machines, desktop and laptop, intermittent on both, which is worse that them not working at all.
I guess going to Windows 10 is a good thing, I just dread the whole process as I've got Adobe CC suite running so smoothly.
Thanks again, everyone (and Listen, too).