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mcstringer413
I get it. As I said i was just experimenting after reading about this technique. The experiment worked. I learned that i probably will hardly ever use this tool again, and definitely not for gain staging. As I said in post #7, I will continue to use the tried and true method of using the gain knob or a trim plugin in the first insert slot as my gain staging tool for the start of a mix. I appreciate all the support and responses.
 
Mike

Mike, what I do is use the Gain knob (like you do)
but to take it a step further, sometimes I even automate the gain, because if you try to compress levels that are all over the place, the lower levels might seem okay, but when a loud level hits the compressor..it slams the snot out of it, over compressing the signal.
if you have a level that is pretty tame across the board, you don't have to worry about this much.
but on something like vocals where the dynamics are up and down, this is where gain automation comes in true.
like this video made by Craig Anderton:

 
this takes care of the gain staging aspect of things.
now if you really want to get bipolar about it (such as what I do) you take it a step further and also automate Volume levels. Volume automation differs in Gain Automation as volume automation comes after the FX.
I use this for perceived loudness vs what my meter is telling me. and paying caution to the wind making sure im not going in to the red.
 
anyway, hope this helped. happy sonaring

Just trie that in the latest version of Splat, andit doesn't work like the video??

Works here with latest SONAR version. Steps work exactly as shown in video.
 
As a test:
You can do the same adjusting of clip gain by click and drag vertically on the lower half of a clip while holding Ctrl key.
You should see a red automation envelope for clip gain.
 
BTW, because it's mentioned in previous posts, this is about Clip Gain.
You can't automate the Gain Knob.
 
 

Yeah I can do the gain thing but instead of the "square outline" shown in the vid I just get LOTS of dots, no straight lines?

joden
Yeah I can do the gain thing but instead of the "square outline" shown in the vid I just get LOTS of dots, no straight lines?

Hmm, that's weird.

Usually, you'll see "a lot of dots" when writing automation in real time during playback, but using the method shown in the video, I've never seen any other result than the "square outline" as you described.

It works here with the Move Tool (as shown in the vid) and also with the Smart Tool (selecting lower half of a clip instead of timeline).

I'm running out of ideas, sorry, but hopefully some other members will take a look at your issue.

Best,
Klaus