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2016/05/19 18:15:57
Jim Roseberry
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In addition to those mentioned above by Anderton, RME now has the UFX+, which is USB 3.0 (and Thunderbolt).

 
Announced... but not yet available (at least in the US).
2016/05/20 17:27:36
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Jim Roseberry
vanceen
In addition to those mentioned above by Anderton, RME now has the UFX+, which is USB 3.0 (and Thunderbolt).

 
Announced... but not yet available (at least in the US).


Jim,
 
Thanks for pointing that out, I wasn't aware of it.
 
Based on what RME says, I wouldn't expect "faster" performance (i.e. capable of lower latency) with the UFX+ on USB3 than you get with the UFX on USB2 (which I'm happy to be using now). They seem to be saying that USB3 is advantageous in handling the extra bandwidth when you add 64 MADI channels. Very similar to what they used to say about not needing FW800 unless you were daisy-chaining two FF800's.
2016/05/21 11:01:55
Jim Roseberry
I'm running a UFX as well... and it's been absolutely rock-solid
I leave it on the 48-sample ASIO buffer size most of the time.
2016/05/25 22:36:38
xxrich
Thanks all, oh man you're all really smart:-)  Seriously!  But I haven't run across a major using RME yet, much less Zoom gear.  And don't post if you know of one, not the point.  Not that I'm in a position to know all, but a stroll through the offerings of encoders at the top-end is all I keep doing.  Apogee, UA, or anyone with higher specs than these.  No troubles though, but I do feel second citizen to that other fruit of an operating system.  Really.  Really, in this day and age?
Thanks again for all the thoughts.
-rich
2016/05/25 23:52:59
SuperG
The system works like this:
 
Apple sells a mostly closed hardware product to clientele with a high vanity quotient?, and wallets to match.In this model you don't incremental upgrade your machine, you buy a whole new one.
 
However, real work must be done - expansion and connectivity is needed. How do you reconcile that need with a closed box system?
 
You build high speed external I/O, and and you do it on the bleeding edge - and you can afford to do this, because your clients will pony up.
 
On Windows, Thunderbolt is mostly meh. Nice to have, but there just isn't that many use cases to justify it at the current moment. USB nicely fills the bill and is more than capable of providing enough channels to choke today's CPU. So the thinking is, let the bleeding Apple folk amortize the cost of developing/debugging Thunderbolt and us regular PC folks will sit tight tol then. 
 
Microsoft finally took notice with of Thunderbolt with the introduction of USB-Type C, with its alternate mode transmission. It's future proof to a point, and by allowing other protocols,  it doesn't box them in with a technology controlled by others. I'm guessing it'll be another year before USB-Type C/Thunderbolt etc make it to non-gamer PC's.
2016/05/26 22:12:12
xxrich
Liked you post:-)  And I am (and have been) sitting tight :-)
2016/05/29 11:45:00
Jim Roseberry
xxrich
Thanks all, oh man you're all really smart:-)  Seriously!  But I haven't run across a major using RME yet, much less Zoom gear.  



RME makes some of the best audio interface hardware available... and they've done so the better part of 20 years.
No majors using RME?  You need to look harder.
http://www.rme-audio.de/en/artists.php
 
2016/05/30 23:37:30
xxrich
Thanks, I see :-)
-rich
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