I received an Email yesterday from Yamaha regarding an OS Update for the Yamaha Montage. I currently own the Montage 8.
The info is here: https://www.yamahasynth.com/montage-category/montage-os-v2-5-new-feature.
I was very excited about the direct support for 3 Party DAW but noticed there was no mention of CBB or Sonar.
The new Remote function supports: CUBASE, LOGIC, LIVE and PRO TOOLS.

It was very disappointing because my central control is the Montage 8 and having a way to directly integrate with Sonar/CBB would have been great.

So why was CBB/Sonar not included?

I am begin to feel as if the industry is moving away from CBB/Sonar and this platform is not taken seriously as other platforms.


CBB is great but the system is stuck in this "for project musician domain." I feel this is taking away from the platform and creating the wrong perception.


Despite CBB/Sonar doing most of what is expected from a DAW.
Maybe Cakewalk/CBB is like a great artist without a hit record or most recently the FX TV Series. The Americans, whose lead actors have never won an Emmy.

I have to say that I was one of those people hoping Cakewalk/Sonar would become rocketed into the main stream and dominate by an acquisition but to me (IMHO) BandLab does not appear to be moving away from the "Project Studio" stigma.

Again, I am just wondering if the industry has moved on and we are all that is left when it comes to Sonar/CBB. 

The industry never fully embraced SONAR. It was frequently absent from the list of "supported" DAW's by both software and hardware developers, and missing from lists of 10 best DAW's in publications. Most products would work with SONAR, but developers seemed to never want to take the time or invest the money to test their products on SONAR, or deal with SONAR users who had problems with the product. The lack of a Mac OS version may have been a factor. It remains to be seen whether this situation will change dramatically with Cakewalk by BandLab.
 
The main determinant will probably be the size of the user base. These guys will likely sell more product to naïve CBB users if they are willing to "support" the DAW. So far there does not seem to be any aggressive marketing of CBB to the newbies. On the other hand, they may make the calculation that anyone who is using a free DAW is unlikely to spend a fortune on overpriced peripherals and plugins, and so support is not worth the investment. Absent a big advertising budget, there is little reason for most publications to feature articles of ratings of CBB either. 

Doesn't look like they support Studio One or Reaper either, so we're in good company.

jeremy@cominginsecond.com
Doesn't look like they support Studio One or Reaper either, so we're in good company.

Or Fruity Loops (which is one of the best selling DAWs according to most reports) and Reason all "house hold names" in the DAW world.

I work for numerous pro producers, studios, and musicians who are pretty well known and I have used nothing but Sonar and now CbB for finished pro media and sales worldwide distributed. These programs were the sole DAW used for tracking, mixing, and, of all things, mastering to deliver polished, professional projects.
This is evidence enough for me to claim that Sonar or CbB is much more than a project studio tombstone.

Ya can't give it away.

Direct support has never been necessary in the past for Cakewalk to work just fine with controllers and software. Also, those of us who maintain a successful career through the usage of Cakewalk don't require the approval of "the industry" for us to keep using the program to produce great work. 

By day, I work with a lot of young folks, who are also musicians. They asked me what I use for making music, and I was excited to tell them about my favourite program Cakewalk by BandLab, which is now a very powerful DAW, that is totally FREE ! (thank you BandLab). . . thing is, they already knew about BandLab, and have been using it for a while, online collaborating with their phones etc . . . they had just never heard of "Cakewalk by Bandlab" ?
 
My point is, due to the apparent lack of advertising, it will take some time for everyone to notice that Cakewalk is out there, if they even want to use it anyways . . . since Cakewalk itself doesn't yet have the online collaboration app built into it, which seems to be what they really want.
 

I think Meng may need to have some conversations with the industry manufacturers to get them to bring CbB into the mix for developing support for their products, especially for things like MIDI enabled consoles and controller devices (to include instruments like the Montage).

SONAR got by for a long time with a fairly simple set of supported interfaces because you could use a "standard" template such as the Makie Console / Control Surface because they were widely imitated by other interfaces. As the controllers have gotten more sophisticated and incorporate more control options that the interfaces they used to imitate just don't cover using those "standard templates" isn't enough.

As a side note: Yamaha will always have CuBase support because it's their product. They include Pro Tools because, apparently, everyone must. Ableton gets a lot of love because they do things that other DAWs don't or don't do well. And LOGIC because Apple makes it - Yamaha loves Apple, the Mac and iOS alike. None of those four are bad choices to support, but I think Reaper, Fruity Loops... sorry , FL Studio, and CbB are, as much as they are used, should be part of that support, too.

melmyers
Direct support has never been necessary in the past for Cakewalk to work just fine with controllers and software. Also, those of us who maintain a successful career through the usage of Cakewalk don't require the approval of "the industry" for us to keep using the program to produce great work. 

I believe it is this kind of thinking that has kept Cakewalk behind when it comes to industry dominance. This is like saying the "Ford Model T" works, it moves people around or the Land Lines and Air Ballons are great so just stop there. In the end this has hurt Cakewalk standing.

I am just curious, have you used or do you own a Montage or Kronos?
If you have, then you will understand the need for some level of integration. Again, I am a Keyboard enthusiast and I have never used a soft synth.

When you have sophisticated machines, the need to have some level of integration speeds up workflow.

As a Cakewalk and Sonar lover, I want to see dominance and trajectory which goes far beyond hitting a record button.
Lets face it, where the hell did Studio One come from?