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2016/05/21 22:30:46
bitflipper
Resonant Serpent
The KRK V8s I use are the very first model. They've held up incredibly well and I really like the midrange response. If they went out, I'd replace them with the newer model. 



I hated the Rokit line, but the VXT products are a significant step up. At the moment, I am seriously considering the VXT8, if for no other reason than they are the least-expensive option ($1200 vs. $2000 for the ADAMs). I've got to get over to Studio Lawajava and give them a listen. 
 
2016/05/21 23:06:01
Zo
bitflipper
When I got my ADAM P-11As and subwoofer in 2008, I thought I was set for life. I loved those ADAMS. They were like a trusted friend you could always count on to tell you the truth.
 
Sadly, some miscreants decided my stuff should be theirs, and carted them off. Everything; keyboards, amps, microphones, guitar. Those m******f******s cleaned me out. The good news is insurance will cover most of it, so I'm cheering myself up by shopping.
 
Replacing stage amps and keyboards is easy. Studio monitors, not as much fun. Most powered speakers I'd really want are too expensive, so I'm looking at what's out there that's cheaper than my old system. The old system cost me about $2700, but I'd like to keep the replacement cost under $2000 to compensate for my deductible and depreciation.
 
To that end, I'm planning on getting 8" woofers this time so that I won't need a sub. There are some interesting new products out there as well as recent updates to old classics.
 
Here's my current list of candidates - any comments from users (e.g. noise or reliability issues) are welcome, as well as any suggestions for products I've not considered. The main prerequisite - other than price - is solid performance below 45 Hz to avoid having to buy a sub. 
 
1. Mackie HR824mk2 $1400 (pr)
    Pros: Lots of power, non-ported, -1.5dB @ 37 Hz, wide sweet spot (assuming that's really a plus)
    Cons: paper cone, large heavy enclosure
 
2. Presonus R80 $1000 (pr)
    Pros: Kevlar woofer, ribbon tweeter, adequate power, cheap
    Cons: Presonus isn't known for speakers, no tolerances given for frequency response
 
3. Focal Alpha 80 $1100 (pr)
    Pros: -3dB @ 35 Hz
    Cons: paper cone, may be a little underpowered, have only heard their high-end products (they're great!)
 
 
 


Sorry to hear that homie ...

I owned your exact set up , and believe me those were the best adam monitors imho ( acurate and natural versus new one and sx expensive line)

All yor propositions will be down grade ...

I tried everything and ended up with quested v2108 ( tried event opal sm9b , s3x s2x , pmc , psi , trident ect ...)

My advice , the best bang for the buck : event opal

In your budget : quested sr 7 or 8 don t know how much in usa .... Those are just beauties

Even a pair of 8040 will be better than those mentionned ....
2016/05/22 11:02:15
bitflipper
Thanks for the recommendation, Zo. I value your opinion, and I have no doubt those Quested monitors are top-notch.
 
But they're also $6,500 for a pair. I only got $6,800 in the insurance settlement! 
2016/05/23 04:24:34
Pragi
Probably it´s a "no-go" for you,
to order monitor speaker  in germany,
but if not:
The nubert nupro A 200 and the A 300 are imo very good
monitor speaker for around 700 or 1000 bucks a pair.
Those monitors stand in my and many  other studios in germany.
The Nupros are cheaper than compareable monitors cause 
they are sold by the manufacturer direct.
 
 
For a room til 16 square meter the Nupro A 200 are complete 
sufficient, no sub needed.
Found only reviews in german (all very good) here a link to one translation:
http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/nubert4/1.html
 
http://www.nubert.de/nupro-serie/420/
2016/05/23 09:38:59
bitflipper
Thanks, Pragi. Yet another speaker manufacturer I was unaware of, and by far the most technologically interesting one.
 
These feature a novel amplifier design that I'd expect to have a very good SNR, since the only analog components are the final drivers. Everything up till then is all-digital. You probably hear no hiss from them, nicht wahr?
 
I could see this being especially attractive to ITB EDM folks, who'd need no audio interface at all as long as their laptop had S/PDIF, giving them high-quality audio with minimal hardware. Even without S/PDIF, they could still use the USB connection, although unfortunately (and suprisingly) the USB input is limited to 16 bits and 44.1 KHz. Not as big a limitation as it sounds like, though.
 
I'd love to hear them, but Düsseldorf is a bit far to drive for me.
 
 
 
 
2016/05/23 10:39:48
Pragi
Bitflipper:
I'd love to hear them, but Düsseldorf is a bit far to drive for me.

 
That´s what I thought !
There may be a forum member in  North California  who ownes  a pair of Nupro´s ?
I read in the Nubert forum about such a member, but don´t remember the name.
The Nupro A 200 are not specialists for EDM.
I  connected my pair via spdif with the focusrite saffire .
Easy handling and the monitors turn on and off with the saffire pro 40 -
just one switch and move  for both.
The Nupro A 200 sound, imo, compareable to the Adam S 1 x,
which I compared with a friends pair of these nice monitors.
The heights of the Adams sound a bit more "realistic" and present, not much.
The bass frequencies of the Nupro´s are  more direct and present,
but not as dominating as you supposed .
It´s  always hard to descripe sound in words,
hope you can understand what I mean.
Anyhow, if there is no chance that you can hear this monitors,
they are of course "out" .
 
P.S. And yes, no hiss.
 
 
 
 
 
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