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2014/03/31 01:18:07
kevjazz
And now, the final piece of the puzzle. In our last episode, I told you that the problem seemed to be in the CoolSoft configuration. A blind friend told me that I should change the "Additional Buffers" in the Advanced Options to 8. This change allowed the ASIO buffer setting of 96 to yield a round trip of 6, something. So, Al's well that ends well.

Thanks again,
Kevin

PS. I know TTS1. I've used Cakewalk products on 6 Billboard charting CDs going back to 1996.v
2014/03/31 06:48:43
robert_e_bone
That is GREAT news, indeed!  :)
 
Please note that the small ASIO Buffer Size will be great for tracking (recording), but when you finish your tracking and editing, and begin mixing/mastering, you will need to alter the buffer by making it quite a bit larger - to accommodate the much higher latency-producing plugin effects such as Boost 11 or Perfect Space Reverb.  Some folks use an ASIO Buffer as large as 1024 or more for mixing/mastering.  This is because these kinds of effects use something called 'look-ahead' processing, or otherwise consume vast amounts of CPU.
 
Soooooo, the bottom line here is that you will need to switch back and forth on the ASIO Buffer Size, depending on what you are doing in Sonar.
 
I am quite pleased that you have gotten your current latency issues resolved, and hope this inspires your creativity and productivity with Sonar.
 
Bob Bone
 
2014/03/31 14:05:35
kevjazz
Bob,
 
Just so we're clear, I am not a new user.  I've used Cakewalk products since the mid 90s.  I don't do my own mixing.  More importantly, this laptop is intended solely as a sketchpad for use on long plane flights when I'm on tour.  See www.kevinkern.com for more information.  The deal is that I am new to X3.  but I'm only new to it in the sense that it is physically laid out far differently than 8.5 had been.  Also, I haven't used a Windows 7 machine before, having had an XP box for the last 10 years.  Finally, I was using the 30 day trial version of X3 to see how I would get on from the blindness perspective.  the trial version has no soft synths included.  Therefore, I had to find a free GM synth with which to experiment.  So I guess I looked like more of a beginner than I actually am.  
 
Again, can't thank you enough for all your help.  I'm glad I finally got things straightened out.
 
Best,
Kevin
2014/03/31 15:16:19
robert_e_bone
No problem - nothing in my post or in my thoughts was connected to your being at any particular level of knowledge as a Sonar user, or of DAW processing, in general.
 
All any of us can do is react to the posts as they appear, as we have no other way to really assess others here in the forum, and my posts for this thread are simply based on whatever I can glean from posts, coupled with whatever I can best determine the things to look at - in terms of potential reasons something is or isn't happening, based on wherever I am at that moment in my own understanding of ir all or lack of.
 
I am indeed glad you are sorted out - and DO hope the reduction of stress and frustration aids in your ability to create and be productive with the software.
 
Bob Bone
 
2014/04/06 00:52:49
kevjazz
Sorry to be back again.  After thinking I got everything soted out, I dumped my trial version and upgraded to X3 Producer.  The reality is that everything works fine with the exception of the CoolSoft Virtual MIDI Synth, which still gives me latency of 12.3 msc round trip.  Can't seem to break that.  All the other instruments that come with X3 work like total champs.  So, I guess I'd like a recommendation for a sondfont that I can load in SFZ.  Or, I'd like another recommendation for a GM synth that I can use.  I guess I can function without a GM synth.  It's just that I'd like one so I can load patches using the bank and patch method I've been accustomed to for the last fifteen years or so. 
 
Again, sorry for coming back.
2014/04/06 00:59:57
robert_e_bone
The TTS-1 is a GM synth, with pretty nice sounds.  Have you tried that?
 
Bob Bone
 
2014/04/06 01:13:16
kevjazz
Haven't seen TTS1 in X3. I remember it in 8.5 and earlier.
2014/04/06 01:15:30
scook
Synths are organized a little differently in X3, TTS-1 is in DirectX menu in whichever method is used to insert synths.
2014/04/06 02:01:43
kevjazz
Okay.  YOu won't believe this.  This sucker was right under my blind nose.  It turns out that the text to speech gizmo I use, reads TTS as, wait for it, Text to Speech.  So, I had no idea that this was an error in the "text to speech" engine and its pronunciation dictionary.  Wow!  TTS works fine. As I recall, one used to be able to choose a patch in TTS1 using the channel, bank and patch drop downs in each MIDI track strip.  I know that you can go to the inspector for this.  But I wish I could figure out how to get to the channel, bank and patch boxes in the individual tracks in TTS1 the way I could with CoolSoft.  How do i expand the MIDi strip so I can reliably see that layout?
 
thanks,
Kevin
2014/04/06 02:11:47
scook
The channel, bank and patch drop downs can still be displayed in the MIDI track strip. There is a Track Control drop down between the Track View Menu (in the red box in the image below) and the first track strip just to the right of the time display which controls the track strip display. In the image below the drop down is set to Mix. Set the drop down value to All.

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