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  • Actual working DAW Controller - is ACT deprecated?
2016/08/17 15:32:43
vdd
Hi,
In the past I used a Edirol PCR300 - which worked as expected. I noticed that within the last five years (just my impression) there are no more activities to support the ACT tech. Since there is also no great Sonar support by the Controller manufacturers, this is an issue.
There are some generic templates I have to customize or I can use (expensive) Mackie controllers. But as I learned, I will not reach my busses that way...
This is the list of controllers supported by PLAT (today):
  • Tascam US-428 (discontinued)
  • RedRover (discontinued)
  • C.M. Labs Motormix (discontinued)
  • Roland VS-100 (discontinued)
  • Mackie C4 (discontinued)
  • Edirol PCRM30 (discontinued)
  • Roland A-Pro xxx (Driver Issue W10)
  • Radikal Technologies SAC-2K (discontinued)
  • Edirol PCR-300 (discontinued)
 
I read there are solutions made by an individual (Azlow) - but that is not enough (from CW side). If a technology is deprecated - please let us users know! My biggest concern is to use old plug-ins integrated by CW and learning in the near future, that the Sonitus stuff (as example) will not work with W10 beginning at the winter season...
 
2016/08/17 16:41:20
bitman
I really really hope to release this soon before we all die.
 
Really.
I'm fixing a naging bug right now, checking sonar while she re compiles ;-)
www.mtmsoftworks.com
 
The download links are dead by design right now.
2016/08/17 16:59:32
RSMCGUITAR
I find the lack of midi controllers in SPlat (and in general) to be a bummer
2016/08/17 17:10:07
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
add the VS-700 also to the list of discontinued controllers (but it still works perfectly with the software)
 
soon there will be the console 1 support implemented:
http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR/Rolling-Updates#start
 
hoping to see a few ACT bug fixes along the way when it is released - fingers crossed
2016/08/17 17:25:54
chuckebaby
I use Mackie control / through midi. it works great. im not sure I could ever go back to just using a keyboard and mouse.
2016/08/17 22:25:16
Anderton
Here's the sad reality about general-purpose control surfaces: they don't sell. As a result, companies that made them realized updating hardware drivers every time software sneezed was a losing proposition, and software companies didn't see much merit in creating drivers for hardware that didn't sell. (Check out Sweetwater's offering on control surfaces: it's mostly surfaces dedicated to specific programs, Mackie-compatible types, or old units that are still being made...or maybe whose initial production run has yet to sell out .)
 
At seminars about mixing, I used to ask how many people used control surfaces and how many mixed with a mouse. Usually one or two hands went up for control surfaces, so I eventually ended up cutting related parts from the seminars because no one cared.
 
However, all is not lost. ACT was a good idea that has fallen into disrepair. Regardless, I've come up with ways to use ACT as a controller "scratchpad" that works very well, quite efficiently, and at least for my needs is better than the intended concept of replacing something like a mixer. I wrote about one of these techniques for the Cakewalk blog.
 
The Mackie protocol, while imperfect, nonetheless enjoys wide compatibility and many controllers will work with SONAR when emulating the Mackie protocol. Also the PreSonus FaderPort is one of the surviving hardware controllers that works with SONAR, and Softube's control surface looks very promising for several reasons.
 
Azslow3 has come up with an insanely great replacement for ACT (well, at least I see it that way). It's not easy to learn but then again, neither was ACT. I've used his plug-in to get things working that never worked before.
 
And finally, the future - for better or worse - is likely going to be touch. Hardware controllers are expensive in terms of design, tooling, repair, and support. And as many companies found out, they're a losing proposition. Devices like iPads and touch screen computers are consumer electronics devices, and the music industry has traditionally ridden on the coattails of consumer electronics. If Cakewalk has decided to transition from hardware to touch, then they're probably betting on the right horse.
 
When it comes to using touch with DAWs, the situation is not mature yet, either on the controller or software side...but it's getting there. It's a question of reaching critical mass; once/if touch screens become the norm, the software will be optimized for it in ways we may not be able to imagine now, but will hopefully do what we want.
2016/08/17 22:37:21
bitman
I don't see what's wrong with ACT at all. Maybe with only 8 knobs / faders and no heads up map it can be cumbersome to use but when the 32 and a scribble strip map it's a treat.
2016/08/17 22:46:18
Anderton
bitman
I don't see what's wrong with ACT at all.

 
Possibly end user impatience  That's probably why I'm comfortable with my "ACT lite" variation.
 
2016/08/18 01:19:35
RSMCGUITAR
I really wish there was more variety in the available devices. I really like the idea of this:  
I think (or something like it) would be cool for the Quad Curve. I would also love another similarly sized unit which would be a Transport/Scrub/track selector. I guess I like the modularity. The Steinburg CMC series was pretty cool and similar to what I'm suggesting but I think it lacked the feel.
2016/08/18 11:50:35
Anderton
RSMCGUITAR
The Steinburg CMC series was pretty cool and similar to what I'm suggesting but I think it lacked the feel.

 
Some of them are useable with SONAR, but I don't think they were a massive success either.
 
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