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2016/08/12 00:10:34
AdamGrossmanLG
Hello Everyone,

I am getting extremely frustrated right now.  I've been working on a project with about 20 softsynths.  I went back to my bass track and dubbed in some write automation with the pitch bend wheel.  I *thought* I was modifying ONLY the pitch of my bass track as that is the one I was on and the one that had the Write Automation enabled... however...  most of my tracks now are ruined.  My other tracks are playing wrong notes!!!  How is this even possible?  Its like these pitch wheel messages are being sent to ALL my softsynths!!!
 
First off, how do I revert back?
 
Secondly, why is this happening?
 
THANK YOU!!
2016/08/12 00:15:44
AdamGrossmanLG
woah --- to add.. its effected even LIVE playing on my other tracks.  My "D" is now playing a "C" - LIVE!!!! on a track i wasn't even editing!!!!   
2016/08/12 00:20:08
AdamGrossmanLG
to add one more piece of information - while one of those tracks is playing out of key - if I hilight that track and just move the pitch wheel a bit and then let it go back to the center, it then plays the correct pitch!   
2016/08/12 00:29:47
Anderton
SilverBlueMedallion
First off, how do I revert back?

 
Presumably, you "Save As" periodically to guard against potential catastrophic failures. If you can't fix the issue, you'll just have to go back to the most recent version because I also presume you tried undo and it didn't change.
 
Secondly, why is this happening?

 
It sure sounds like something funky happening with your controller. But we have no idea what controller you're using, the status of local control, etc. Could you have hit a transpose button on it?
 
2016/08/12 10:43:06
dcumpian
Yeah, you probably can't revert back at this point if you don't have a backup. I would suggest opening each track and deleting any unwanted pitch bend messages. This is easiest in the Event Viewer, but it will be tedious.
 
Regards,
Dan
 
2016/08/12 11:27:49
brundlefly
Select all tracks that shouldn't have pitch bend, use Edit > Select By Filter to select only Wheel events, and delete.
 
Also, make sure you don't have any MIDI track inputs set to All Inputs - Omni and no synths have MIDI Out enabled where not intended.
2016/08/12 11:35:56
pinguinotuerto
Hey Brundle and Craig,
I'm not sure about this, but could the option under preferences that allows recording MIDI even without any tracks being armed have anything to do with this, since all other tracks are being affected? Don't know if that affects only notes or all MIDI data coming in. Just a thought.
2016/08/12 11:47:27
brundlefly
Recording without arming requires the recording track to have focus, and it shouldn't affect writing automation in any case - that has to be enabled per track and is done during playback, not recording.
 
However, on re-reading the original post, it's a little unclear whether OP was writing track automation or recording Wheel events. Given the symptoms, the latter seems more likely.
2016/08/12 11:50:05
pinguinotuerto
brundlefly
Recording without arming requires the recording track to have focus, and it shouldn't affect writing automation in any case - that has to be enabled per track and is done during playback, not recording.



Thanks for clarifying. My doubt was because he was writing Pitch Bend info, not regular track automation. I thought maybe the MIDI info was being recorded by the other tracks because of that option in preferences.


2016/08/12 16:19:08
AdamGrossmanLG
hello, it is an AKAI MPK 25 key.  I enabled write automation on ONE track... hit record and messed around with the pitch wheel on ONE track.  How could ALL my tracks be effected by the wheel changes I made on ONE track?
 
Could it be because by default Cakewalk keeps setting each MIDI track input as MIDI OMNI instead of a controller along with no option to change this default?
 
I am very disappointed here with the way MIDI is working SPlat.
 
I only had 1 track armed, so how could the pitch wheel be effecting other synths.
 
Also there are NO pitch wheel events in any of the other tracks, ONLY the one in the one I want.   Seems like the pitch wheel from one track is effecting all other tracks.
 
Thank you for your help!
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