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2016/08/15 11:16:59
Dwayne
Session drummer 3 has one crash cymbal, I'm connecting a Roland TD-25 Elec. drumset, with two crashes and a china cymbal aux input. How can I customize Session Drummer 3 to work with my set-up for the TD-25 set? 
2016/08/15 11:20:41
pinguinotuerto
Hi,
I have a lowly TD-4, that's why I use it only as a controller to trigger sounds in Addictive Drums 2.  Doesn't the TD-25 have better sounds than Session Drummer?
2016/08/15 11:32:07
Dwayne

they both are pretty good... I want the control with the option of the other cymbal in Sonar... I could buy Addictive Drums 2, it has multi configure for drums, is that true? Session drummer 3 makes it easy to customize the sound once its in your comp. I'm using Sonar Artist, unless I upgrade I'm left with one crash in Session Drummer 3.
2016/08/15 11:37:18
pinguinotuerto
Addictive Drums is in an entire different league than Session Drummer.  Yes, you can customize just about everything. More importantly though, if you're playing Vdrums, it can respond amazingly to your playing if you set it up right. It comes free with Platinum, so you might want to look into the cost difference between getting AD2 by itself or just upgrading Sonar. The Sonar version comes with some Ad Packs included already.
2016/08/15 11:45:09
Dwayne
Hmm.. 400 bucks to upgrade to platinum, about 170 bucks to buy AD separately. So along with customized sounds you can configure the sets as well? I have the link I haven't gotten a chance to research it yet...
 
2016/08/15 11:59:06
scook
It will require setting up the brain of the drum kit to trigger the appropriate MIDI notes or use a drum map in SONAR to translate what the TD-25 sends to what Session Drummer expects for those instruments. The note mapping for Session Drummer is at the end of the help file. Looking at the map you may notice the cymbals are already there.
 
But lets say they were not. Would it matter? Not really. Session Drummer will play what ever samples are defined in the sfz files loaded at the time. It it only by convention note 35 plays kick samples. Note 35 could just as easily be set up to trigger a dog bark, police whistle, cymbal or all three depending velocity.
2016/08/15 12:08:31
chuckebaby
not sure what is going on, if I double posted, my apology's. I cant seem to post right now.
 
 
EDIT
If your a newb, your going to want to do something similar to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjZS61Wg-XY
 
there might be a factory Drum Map for the TD-25 im not sure, but I do know Ping..AD2 is superior to session drummer 3.
but session drummer 3 you can also drag and drop samples on to the kit pieces, this is one of the things I like about it. if you want to read up on SFZ files you can even customize and create your own kits using your own samples.
2016/08/15 12:19:27
pinguinotuerto
chuckebaby
 Ping..AD2 is superior to session drummer 3.
but session drummer 3 you can also drag and drop samples on to the kit pieces, this is one of the things I like about it. if you want to read up on SFZ files you can even customize and create your own kits using your own samples.




Yeah, but as a drummer, when it comes to playability and response to your playing (assuming one is trying to make the drums have natural sounding dynamics) they're night and day. To me, that is what makes the difference between a drum track that has good sounds, and one that sounds like a real drumset is being played.
2016/08/15 12:21:55
chuckebaby
pinguinotuerto
chuckebaby
 Ping..AD2 is superior to session drummer 3.
but session drummer 3 you can also drag and drop samples on to the kit pieces, this is one of the things I like about it. if you want to read up on SFZ files you can even customize and create your own kits using your own samples.




Yeah, but as a drummer, when it comes to playability and response to your playing (assuming one is trying to make the drums have natural sounding dynamics) they're night and day. To me, that is what makes the difference between a drum track that has good sounds, and one that sounds like a real drumset is being played.


I agree with you. and im not a drummer by nature, so I will take the word of a drummer over my own on this subject.
SD3 does have its places though. not a bad tool for something's.
but agreed, AD2 is superior to SD3 (as I said in my previous post)
2016/08/15 13:22:50
Dwayne
Thanks chuckebaby, it looks like I have to go into the mixer section of S3, and set the pads as cymbals to trigger from the TD-25. I haven't looked if I need to map the TD-25, but I have the TD-25 selected as a  midi input in the properties section. Very cool... Hopefully when I get home this is all I'll have to do.
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