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2016/08/07 02:07:31
Andrzej Salm
Is there any way to change defaults in Loop Construction View?
 
Whenever I double click on a newly imported clip to open Loop Construction View I then have to change the slice default size from 1/8th to 1/16th. Is there any way of changing the default value to 1/16th?
 
Also, why can I not just click on the Loop button to enable looping after importing a clip? That would be logical. Instead, I always have to click on the Clip menu, then another click to tick Loop On.
Really annoying...
2016/08/07 11:36:11
Anderton
Andrzej Salm
Whenever I double click on a newly imported clip to open Loop Construction View I then have to change the slice default size from 1/8th to 1/16th. Is there any way of changing the default value to 1/16th?

 
Nice to know someone else uses the Loop Construction View . Anyway, I don't know of any way to change the default. If there was some way to determine the most popular default choice, and if it was 1/16th notes, I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard for Cakewalk to change. 
 
Also, why can I not just click on the Loop button to enable looping after importing a clip?

 
That always seemed like an oversight to me as well. However, if after dragging a clip into the project you type Ctrl+L to convert it into a loop, when you double-click on it to open the Loop Construction View it will open up with Loop already enabled.
 
2016/08/07 13:22:22
Andrzej Salm
Thanks for the reply.
 
This is such an oversight... it seems like this part of Sonar has been completely forgotten by the bakers which is a shame.
 
I've been using it for years. It's really great for working with drum loops. 1/16ths work best for that.
 
It would be great if the slice size stayed the same in a project after adjusting it in the first imported clip. It would be even better to have it saved with the project.
 
The whole process becomes tiresome after importing five or more clips.
 
Ctrl+L is handy, but I still have to go to the Loop Construction View to adjust the slice size. With the slice size set in the project to 1/16th, all I'd have to do would be to hit Ctrl+L after importing a clip and voila, I'd be ready to go without even opening the Loop View. That's why the 1/8th default setting is so annoying to me.
2016/08/07 13:34:55
Anderton
Andrzej Salm
This is such an oversight... it seems like this part of Sonar has been completely forgotten by the bakers which is a shame.

 
Actually it has not been forgotten, there have been some performance tweaks and bug fixes over the past few months. However, it hasn't gotten any new development.
 
The Bakers have bigger issues they're working on now, like the Comping and Take Management re-do, Browser enhancement, plug-in load balancing, etc. These affect just about every user. Once these "big" aspects of the program are done, then we can start bothering them to put some dev into other corners of the program.
 
I suspect not that many people use the LCV, which is a shame because it does so much more than I think most people realize...I've written tips on how to use it to emulate tape varispeed, twist normal sounds into cool electro effects, and also how to use it as an "audio step sequencer."
 
 
 
2016/08/07 13:54:01
Andrzej Salm
AndertonI suspect not that many people use the LCV, which is a shame because it does so much more than I think most people realize...


My other use of it is to determine the tempo of an audio file. Back in the day when I was playing in cover bands and had to learn songs quickly I used  the LCV for that.
 
Rip a song off youtube, import the wav file into Sonar. Isolate 1,2 or 4 measures by ear by splitting the imported .wav file. Apply trimming on the isolated clip, then hit Ctrl+L to enable groove looping and open the Loop Construction View. Adjust the number of beats if the clip.
The BPM of the clip is displayed in the LCV, all you have to do now is to adjust the tempo of the project.
 
If you did a decent job with isolating those measures and the clip loops properly you should have the exact BPM of the song. Manually remove silence from the beginning of the song, so the audio starts at 1:00:000
 
Now you can snap to grid and loop the verse/chorus/whatever.
 
Very handy.
 
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