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2009/01/09 00:36:26
HowNow
I just migrated my copy of Sonar 6 to a new 64-bit Vista machine. I am using a Presonus Firepod as my audio and MIDI interface, but no MIDI devices appear in Sonar other than the Microsoft GS Wavetable. Under "Options - Audio" in Sonar, I have the driver mode set to ASIO and the Playback and Record Timing Masters set to the Presonus drivers. The Presonus drivers appear correctly under "Audio-Drivers" and I have checked them all.

I have verfied that the 64-bit Presonus drivers are installed and that the latest firmware update is installed.

Would really appreciate any help on how to correct this. I have searched the Forum for ideas on this and have not made any progress so far.

Thanks,
HowNow
2009/01/09 02:50:39
FastBikerBoy
Go to Options->MIDI Devices. You should see your MIDI devices in there, check them and then they'll appear for use in Sonar. Disable the Microsoft GS Wavetable, that'll cause all sorts of problems.
2009/01/09 08:07:08
HowNow
Sorry I wasn't clearer in the first post...My problem is that the Presonus device does not show up when I click on Options->MIDI. It did appear when I first installed it, but I experimented with moving between WDM mode and ASIO mode and that is when all the Presonus MIDI devices disappeared. It continues to work fine as my Audio device, but even after uninstalling and re-installing the Presonus I cannot get it to appear as a MIDI device.
2009/01/09 11:16:42
FastBikerBoy
You've disabled the Microsoft GS wavetable though? That will cause all sorts of problems for MIDI devices.

If you've done that and you still can't see it, it sounds like a driver issue. Can you see the device installed correctly in the Device Managaer? If not, it's not installed correctly. If you can see it there try updating the driver, I don't know whether Presonus have their own drivers, I'm guessing they do but a MIDI device using the standard windows driver will (Confusingly) show up as 'USB Audio device' even though it's actually a MIDI device. You'd still see those listed as devices in the MIDI options though.

My initial guess is the Microsoft GS wavetable is causing your issue.
2009/01/09 13:54:53
HowNow
Thanks for the help, FBB. When you say to disable the Microsoft GS Wavetable, do you just mean de-selecting it in Sonar (which I have done) or do you mean going into Windows Device Manager and doing something there.? I can't find any reference to it in Device Manager.

The Presonus Firepod does show up in Device Manager as working properly, and I have installed the current device drivers from Presonus. Are things supposed to be labelled as MIDI devices in Device Manager - because I don't see any reference to MIDI there - or would the Presonus just show up as an audio device there?

This seems like it should be an extremely basic problem to solve, but I have spent hours on it and gotten nowhere. Would really appreciate any other ideas.

HN

2009/01/09 14:33:48
FastBikerBoy
Hmm, I'm afraid I'm running out of ideas. I don't have a Presonus Firepod so I'm working a little blind. I would guess they have their own MIDI drivers. If they do and they are installed correctly they would show up in Options->MIDI Devices. If they are not there that would suggest the drivers aren't installed correctly. It may be that Windows is not even recognising the fact that it's plugged in. Have you tried a complete uninstall, cold reboot (i.e. switched off not restart) an re-install?

Anyone else out there with a Firepod like to chime in, the only thing I can think of is it's not properly installed but it may be something peculiar to the firepod.
2009/01/10 10:54:19
HowNow
Thanks for the effort, FBB - but still no success. I tried the reinstall with a cold reboot and still no MIDI devices. Would really appreciate any other ideas if anyone out there has encountered this.
2009/02/07 15:18:12
simppu
I do not, but I would we happy if somebody did, because I think I'm having exactly the same problem with my set up. I changed the MIDI keyboard controller to M-Audio Oxygen, but that did not help...
2009/02/07 15:59:08
John
In the Windows Vista control panel under system then in the device manager are the MIDI ports shown?
2009/02/08 10:25:35
CJaysMusic
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but no MIDI devices appear in Sonar other than the Microsoft GS Wavetable.

And thats why you dont see any. Get rid of the wavetable synth and youll see your midi devices
Cj
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