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2016/07/29 15:44:32
sharke
I don't think "if it ain't broke don't fix it" applies as strongly to OS updates as it does to other things. Eventually your old version of Windows is going to turn into a ball and chain. I still see people desperately clinging to XP, a 16 year old OS, because they're afraid to update their DAW's and they still think of it as the "ultimate" Windows. Yet they seem to spend half their time wrestling with whether or not this or that piece of new software is compatible with it.
2016/07/29 15:48:21
wetdentist
i was surprised how easy it was to get Windows 10 (the free version) working on my system.  i have several devices, Kore 1, Kore 2, Maschine & Keystation 61es, that don't have "Windows 10 drivers" and they all work flawlessly.  Sonar Platinum also runs quicker.  no joke!
2016/07/29 16:28:49
joakes
Beepster
joakes
I don't understand the fuss about the updating. FWIW you can stop W10 (professional) from phoning home, updating etc very simply.

Try this : https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

I upgraded months ago, and used the above straight away. No problems.

Hope this helps last minute hesitaters to decide. I had awful latency issues under W7, had to disable the network adapter each time i used Sonar. W10 solved that.

Cheers,
J



I hear ya. My whole premise though is "if it ain't broke don't fix it" and Win7 has really been great for me from the start and I'd rather make the transition gradually (which I should have started 6 months ago... my bad).
 
Also as I poked around that Win10 system today I was essentially lost (like I am with any new OS) so I need a bit of time to explore and learn so that when real problems arise I'm not sitting there totally lost and useless. Kind of why I want to force myself to learn the new ways on my beater rig before transition on the DAW.
 
tl;dr...
 
I'm a scurredykat.
 
:-p


Yes, i understand.

I have to admit i cheated a little by putting a W7 start button on to W10 plus the W7 menu system and desktop. I didn't like the tiles system. So i got a wolf in sheep's clothing i guess.

But that being said, W10 is the bees knees for latency and i am glad i updated when i did - and how i did.

Just my POV.

Cheers,
J
2016/07/29 16:47:06
Thedoccal
Kore 1 and 2 work?  Ok then!  Will have to plug my Kore 2 controller in and see what's up.
Oh... and I discovered that if I "right click" the Win 10 Start Icon I get a popup list of all the old start menu items including the Control Panel, shut down, etc. 
2016/07/29 18:25:08
kitekrazy1
 All legacy devices for me works on W10.  I was a naysayer because W7 is quite awesome.  Not one of my old outdated audio devices is a doorstop.  
 
 I wouldn't do a clean install so I could use it to test everything.
 
 Activation is quick and you don't involve yourself in it.
 
 Not so sure about W10? Image your current OS, install 10, make sure it it activated, try it. if you don't like it-revert. At least with the activated W10 image you got your free upgrade. 
2016/07/30 04:59:11
soens
 GREAT! Maybe now they'll finally stop nagging me to switch and quit with the stealthy slight of hand attempts to install 10 on my pc! When I'm ready, I'll get a new pc.
 
No fear here, but still running XP on the desktop w/no internet cause some older apps don't work on Win7 and up.
2016/07/30 07:06:12
Mystic38
This is certainly true...
 
but also true is that if you upgrade an OS you need to spend half your time in advance wrestling with whether or not this or that piece of hardware you have is compatible with it.. and the chances are that it is not...and if not, and its an important piece of hardware you are pretty screwed.
 
So Win 10 is only free if you dont have to buy a new interface, controller, or synthesizer ;)
 
sharke
I don't think "if it ain't broke don't fix it" applies as strongly to OS updates as it does to other things. Eventually your old version of Windows is going to turn into a ball and chain. I still see people desperately clinging to XP, a 16 year old OS, because they're afraid to update their DAW's and they still think of it as the "ultimate" Windows. Yet they seem to spend half their time wrestling with whether or not this or that piece of new software is compatible with it.



2016/07/30 09:06:37
chuckebaby
I have no interest in this new technology, im still on Windows 99 and running fine.
 
My DAW is state of the art

2016/07/30 11:32:19
tonydude
I like Windows 10, but I am a .NET developer.
 
In addition stuff like PowerShell and Chocolatey interests me. Many hours have been wasted installing / re-installing music software. The ability to script installs and automatic updates is a huge plus in my book. 
 
2016/07/30 13:08:07
robbyk
Beepster
 
Thanks for the extra confirmation. Gonna let it ride. The only real problem I'm having with Win7 at the moment is MS seems to have COMPLETELY destroyed the update mechanism. Been wrestling with that the past few days as well. Might need to just lock down the DAW if that doesn't resolve itself.
 
Cheers.


 
Ah ha! I thought something was wonky, last night I found one of my pcs running win 7 at 50 - 100% cpu unceasingly, rendering the pc useless. I eventually tracked it to a certain syvhost. Online I found how to figure out which program it was running for as there were about 6 syvhosts running. Turned out it was Windows Update. Other articles online said it was a common problem and it is best to turn off the Windows Update via a disable, and it gave instructions how to do it. Then it said just enable it ever so often and run the updates.
 
So next I went into windows update which I had configured to notify me, but don't download and install so I had that control. Lo and behold I see there are 42 updates and the last install was Feb 10th!
 
Now I'm really wondering. I attempted to download the critical updates. No go. So I just selected one, a small one for Silverlight. again, 0% progress after 1 hour.
 
Then I check my DAW pc. Same thing, last update and download Feb 10th, now with 30 some critical updates.
 
So I go back to the family pc and troubleshoot. All articles said to download a windows diagnostic tool from Microsoft and it will fix it. I did that. It found 3 issues such as corrupted files and fixed 2 of them. The 3rd stated unable to download critical files or something like that remained unfixed.
 
I restarted and went into windows updater, still a no go after an hour trying to download a 5 kb file.
 
Now I'm thinking, let's go for win 10. I go and find out I'm too late, it ended at midnight. I ran a query from google and the response indicated there would be no extension to the deadline and that Robby K ate bisquits for breakfast and didn't deserve any of them :)
 
Oh well I went to bed.
 
Now today, I see it was Microsoft all along. They shipwrecked me on Feb 10th not realizing I wouldn't notice until July 29th at 11PM!
 
Me not happy...I will permanently disable windows update...
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