2013/06/06 23:08:52
Mister Natural
bought
 
really like some of the tones here !
 
peace
2013/06/10 21:57:07
Living Room Rocker
That is pretty swell of you and Francisco.  Thank you very much, Chad!
2013/06/25 17:38:48
PopStarWannabe
Ok, I bought it and there are some VERY interesting patches within. It was worth the money. Too bad you didn't advertize for the 50% discount that was offered until end of May. I for one checked your website by chance and I saw the offer. But others might have missed it...
 
Anyway, if you'd be kind and enlighten me on the following technical stuff:
 
There are many NON-PAD-TYPE patches (I'll give just 3 examples) that have Channel Aftertouch in the Modulation Matrix assigned to do some sort of thing.
 
However, the way I understand one can use Aftertouch is this: one hits some key(s), then one presses harder on the held key(s) and notices a change in the sound. But in the examples I'll give, the sound ends too soon (due to their nature - bass, keys, etc) before one can notice any changes, so the use of Aftertouch in this way makes no sense to me. A DIFFERENT controller should be used here (instead of the Aftertouch).
 
The question is: am I missing something here? Was something else intended?
 
The 3 examples are:
Universal 120 -> Basses -> Simple Filter Bass
                    -> Keys    -> Combination Lock
                    -> Leads   -> Modal Quick Strummer


2013/06/25 19:59:39
b rock
I believe that I did all three of those presets, so I guess I'm the defendant in this case.
 
As a start, I try to loosely consider keyboard controllers that don't feature mechanical Channel AT, but have the ability to assign channel aftertouch to a knob or wheel.  The main objective, though, is to use a control message that can be used in combination with another (usually Mod Wheel - CC#1, to be democratic).  That combo will still leave one hand free to play the keys, and two hands if the Mod wheel can remain 'parked'.
... the sound ends too soon (due to their nature - bass, keys, etc) before one can notice any changes, so the use of Aftertouch in this way makes no sense to me. A DIFFERENT controller should be used here (instead of the Aftertouch).
I disagree, and here's why: The channel aftertouch value generated is the highest additional pressure across *all* keys.  So, if you hit a note, press to generate aftertouch, and then hit the next note, the channel aftertouch value is still active.  If you are strictly playing staccato, you won't notice much difference.
 
And *that* is something that can be used to your advantage: as a performance technique.
 
The effect on Simple Filter Bass is subtle detuning, vibrato rate & depth increase, and stereo widening.  It becomes more distinctive when Channel AT is held on at least one note, more notes follow, and the Mod Wheel is engaged.  Vibrato depth is enhanced by added detuning.  With Modal Quick Strummer, the panning tricks get exaggerated to the extreme.  I was looking for subtle animation under fingertip control here.
 
But the most obvious example is found in Combination Lock.  Hold Channel Aftertouch on a single key, and play a flurry of additional notes.  The sharp attack notes turn into 'reverse-tape' long feedback notes that spread out further toward panned extremes.  The deep multi-oscillator detuning with the Mod Wheel thickens up the entire soundfield.  The idea was to switch from relatively centered staccato to notes flying in from everywhere.
 
That's the "Combination" part.  And channel aftertouch is the "Lock".
 
Edit:  I should add that the Smooth values in the Modulation Matrix are no accident.  By shifting in different maximum smoothing times with channel aftertouch, you're assured that there are no sharp transitions between 'effects'.  And the values of those effects present themselves in varying proportions; depending on the current pressure applied.  More performance techniques.
2013/06/28 09:01:09
PopStarWannabe
b rock
I try to loosely consider keyboard controllers that don't feature mechanical Channel AT, but have the ability to assign channel aftertouch to a knob or wheel

 
That's my case as well. I've got the M-AUDIO Keystation Pro 88. I assigned Aftertouch to a slider (which are all unfortunately on the right side, so I have to play with the left hand to reach the slider).
 
Anyway, I got your point. It had never occured to me one can actually hold and vary the pressure on a key (even if this key makes no sound anymore) in order to control the sound of other keys. But that's because I never had mechanical Aftertouch he he :)
 
I reached the conclusion that I will probaly buy an expression pedal and assign Channel Aftertouch to it. This way I would always have a free hand (the other being occasinally on the Mod Wheel).
 
Thanks!
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