• SONAR
  • My Wild and Wonderful Win 7 to Win 10 Upgrade Weekend (p.2)
2016/07/25 21:57:09
noynekker
BillWatkins
First, I will say I am definitely liking Sonar under Win 10 - no issues since I finally did get a successful Win 10 install - 'but what a strange trip it had been'
 
  DAW is normally not on-line except for Updates and always with Win 7 'defender' and firewall enabled.
  Last Win 7 update was in May so I decided to go get what else was there and then utilize the 'free Win 10' upgrade since Cake was mentioning that this would need to be done 'sooner or later' :)
  4 'tries' Win 7 update failed, - error logs pointed to the darned 0x8007005 error
  RAN every KB recovery known to man
  Finally happened on to an article by Bit Tec Computers (UK) - posted on their forum and ran their suggestions, including a little program from 'tweaking.com'
  The Tweaking 'repair' program sorted things out and subsequent Win 7 updates and Win 10 install sucessful
 
Apparently, there are issues in Win 7 where 'update' gets confused, corrupted, file permissions/ACLs get turned round, etc. Bunches of articles relating to this phenomena.   I was dangerously close to formatting and reinstalling everything :) It was a JOYOUS experience.   Total time - about 72 hours.
 
But again, I am really liking SPalt under Win 10 - other than the minor nuisance (and now corrected) of the Pace Licensing Service (East/West Libraries) not auto-starting.
 
Onward and Forward.
Best to All,
 Bill - 
 
 
 
 


Since we're trading Win 10 update stories, it didn't take me 72 hours, but it was surely a wasted weekend getting it done. My issue was that after the first failure of the Win 10 update, I could no longer access the BIOS on my Windows 7 to move ahead any further . . . I eventually found out Windows 10 didn't like that I had cloned my Win 7 OS to a newer larger SSD drive and left some remnants (UEFI) behind without reformatting the old SSD drive. Once I figured that out the upgrade finally worked. Then I had to deal with my 15 year old PCI audio interface that still "kind of worked" but crashed Sonar a lot . . . so I came to my senses and installed a USB interface that actually had Windows 10 drivers.
 
All done, backed up, move ahead . . . though Sonar doesn't seem to run any differently for me on Windows 10 . . . I just traded my 4.3 msec round trip latency (PCI - 64 samples) for a 9.5 msec round trip latency (USB - 64 samples), no audible noticeable difference except for the lack of crashing.
2016/07/26 11:12:11
jb101
Really boring Windows 10 story-

I made sure Windows 7 was fully updated, ran the Windows 10 installer.

Not sure how long it took, as I went off and did something else.

When I returned it was all done. .

Did not even update any drivers ( interface = Soundcraft MTK, Cakewalk A-300Pro, Printer, etc, etc.).

Everything seems to be working well. Sonar running like a dream.
2016/07/26 12:47:44
BillWatkins
Hi Sixfinger,
 
 The BritTec youtube link is:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH3jJ1tpCDg
 
at first they speak of the typical Win Update caching issue. Later in, they speak of the Update Repair using tweaking.com utility.
 
 Bill - 
2016/07/26 13:13:11
WallyG
TPayton
....I finally googled the problem and found that a lot of people were having this difficulty on laptops. It turned out to be an overheating issue. So I propped the laptop up in front of an AC vent, plugged it into ethernet, (instead of Wifi) to reduce download time, and everything went off without a hitch....
 



Probable normal dust build up over time preventing proper cooling. Had that happen to me on a 24" iMac and my Play Pen computer. Between using a vacuum cleaner and an air compressor, I made them better.
 
Walt
 
2016/07/26 13:21:15
Chregg
soundtweaker
Chregg
still waiting on roland to get pcr 3/5/800 drivers together


They already work with Win10


not for me they dont, either with upgrade or full install
2016/07/29 02:38:28
VanessaJ
I'm with jb101 on this.
 
Updated to W10 about 6 weeks ago and, apart from getting used to little differences in the OS, I've had few issues. Sonar works pretty much just like below except for one stubborn plugin (Miroslav).
Had to re-register a couple of plugins, though, and my Miroslav Orchestra won't even open in Sonar anymore, even though I can run it as stand alone and all my other IK Multimedia plugins (Amplitube, SampleTank 3, etc) open in Sonar as always.
Eh ... looking to upgrade Miroslav to their new version anyway. Should work just fine.
Film at 11 ...
 
I think W7 is a better overall OS in my experience. Very similar to the good ol' XP. W10 seems built more for social media and gaming apps, and is a bit more limiting in how you can modify your files.
I'd revert back to W7, actually, if not for the fact that I know W10 is quick becoming the standard bearer for PC programing. Best to be ahead of the curve.
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