• SONAR
  • Bounced audio with prolonged silence after music ends
2016/07/24 22:40:48
jcsipio
Here is the sequence of events - I start with an audio track - then open the FX bin to process the audio - I then "bounce the track" to a new track and the new audio has incorporated the effect of the FX bin.  When I try to burn a CD using the bounced audio track and Nero 16 - the bounced track used to make the CD has prolonged silence at end of the respective audio track on CD. In addition, the audio track used for bouncing shows the audio ending correctly. So - basically where am I getting the dead air or tag of silence  at the end of the bounced audio track being burned to CD? Win7Pro-Sonar Platinum
2016/07/25 01:04:53
MacFurse
Don't bounce the track down, just export out as a wave file. Make sure your now time is set to the beginning of the track, and the track 'selected'. It will export with all Fx applied. Then produce your CD using the exported wave file.
 
I'm not sure how you are actually burning the bounced track to Nero, but I have a feeling the extra time is probably being caused by have an extended volume automation ?  Have a look at the automation, or even simply, click on the automation Read able/disable button on the track, so that it is not reading anything.
 
Failing that, if you still can't sort it, after exporting your wave file, open a new project, drag the wave file back into the new project, and trim the audio to suit the length of your program, then export again, and burn the new wave file, which should be exactly the length you have trimmed it to.
 
There are many others ways to do this, so don't be afraid to experiment. Just make sure you have your work saved at a point you want to keep.
 
 
2016/07/25 08:51:45
bitflipper
The problem doesn't have anything to do with burning a CD. The OP probably just noticed the silence while listening to the CD, but it was already there before being handed to Nero.
 
The solution is to not leave it up to SONAR to determine where your song ends, but rather to explicitly specify the endpoint yourself. This is a good practice for other reasons, too, such as heading off the opposite problem: truncating a file prematurely and chopping off reverb tails at the end. It will also take care of leading silence from a count-in.
 
By default, SONAR determines the end-of-song based on the location of the last event in the project. That isn't always reliable, because it may not be apparent (to you) where that last event is, or even what it is. It could be a MIDI note, an automation node, or a leftover from a long clip you'd imported and subsequently truncated. An "event" is anything in the project that affects playback, and many events aren't even visible.
 
What you want to do is set markers at the start of the song and at the end of the song. Then, before exporting, select all tracks from the first marker to the last marker. That will assure that the export contains exactly what you want, no more and no less. There will be no need to edit the exported file before burning to a CD, and every subsequent re-export will be identical to the last.
 
I've long advocated for this to be an automatic feature in SONAR, the ability to designate markers as the start-of-song or end-of-song. It could be implemented easily without having to rewrite a lot of code or compromise backward compatibility. But until that happens, you'll have to do it yourself.
 
 
 
2016/07/25 10:02:48
Anderton
Excellent explanation, Bitflipper. You should copy and paste this every time the same question comes up.
2016/07/25 17:35:02
MacFurse
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