• SONAR
  • [Solved] Cales midiFx
2016/07/23 13:34:26
mmarton
Hey all, I'm trying to get Cales to work.  It's a midi plugin that simplifies key scales for non keyboard players like myself.  The web page is here: http://codefn42.com/cales/  It's a great concept but I can't get it to work.  Cakewalk scans it as an audio plugin, not a midi plugin and I can't seem to get it to work.  What am I missing?  Directions seem pretty straightforward.  Anyone use this?
2016/07/23 13:53:09
scook
That is because it is a VST plug-ins and not an MFX. It is possible to use it but before messing with a third party VST plug-in to perform MIDI key mapping try using the Transpose MFX bundled with SONAR. It can do quite a bit in they way of key mapping and is an MFX plug-in.
2016/07/23 14:15:29
mmarton
Ya I looked at that but it's not quite like Cales. 
2016/07/23 14:24:05
mmarton
I got it so I can see the Cales keys activating but I just can't seem to get the output to trigger my synth...
2016/07/23 14:46:28
azslow3
1. When inserting, check that "Enable MIDI Output" is checked
2. Set Synth MIDI track Input to Cales output, enable permanent echo on this track
3. focus Cales MIDI track and play
(I have just checked that it works, removed it after... my own MIDI plug-in with which I manipulate MIDI is 20 times smaller and does not require "super" routing. But I have to "program" scales myself )
2016/07/23 14:50:56
scook
Did you enable MIDI output on the plug-in?
mmarton
Ya I looked at that but it's not quite like Cales.

Yes, aside from not providing a keyboard graphic there are more options in Transpose, including many more scales and the plug-in does not require an extra track to host it either.
2016/07/23 14:56:26
scook
azslow3
3. focus Cales MIDI track and play

Focus is not necessary, input echo is though.
2016/07/23 15:04:23
azslow3
scook
azslow3
3. focus Cales MIDI track and play

Focus is not necessary, input echo is though.

When I use "looped" MIDI ( Omni->MIDI VST->MIDI Track->VST ...), I have crashed Sonar many times enabling permanent input echo on wrong track (or at wrong time, forgetting to switch Input from global Omni). That is why I advise to use automatic echo and use focus expect when absolutely necessary.
2016/07/23 15:28:27
scook
Still focus is not important, echo is. Focus does not insure echo. It requires "Always Echo Current MIDI Track" and while this is the default not everyone has it enabled. Having focus enable echo can mess with input settings. I have never crashed SONAR as a result of MIDI input settings although LoopBe will complain if I set up a loop. I can deal with that. I never use global omni either.
2016/07/23 16:31:13
mmarton
azslow3
1. When inserting, check that "Enable MIDI Output" is checked
2. Set Synth MIDI track Input to Cales output, enable permanent echo on this track
3. focus Cales MIDI track and play
(I have just checked that it works, removed it after... my own MIDI plug-in with which I manipulate MIDI is 20 times smaller and does not require "super" routing. But I have to "program" scales myself )


Thanks!!! Got it going.  I'm sure transpose is more detailed but this is perfect for what I need.
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