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  • Mix Recall across multiple projects? (p.2)
2016/07/04 02:56:13
Boydie
Yes, I did misunderstand

I agree that templates / track templates are the way to go for this at the moment
2016/07/04 09:39:31
tzzsmk
I cannot magically template already recorded and pre-mixed projects, so I guess there is no solution possible yet -_-
and it also makes little sense to use templates, because I usually choose plugins according to what it sounds like, not what instrument/mic I use, so again no good solution in my opinion :P
2016/07/04 10:35:46
Anderton
I think the "drag mix scene into project" concept may need a little more experimentation. I had two projects open at the same time, and for one of the tracks, dragging in the mix scene did copy the automation and plug-ins over, but not the console controls. I also found out it's possible to copy automation lanes from one project to another when both are open within SONAR, which I hadn't realized before. 
 
I don't have time to try the following, but it seems like this might be the best workaround for now...
 
1. Save the Mix Recall scene from the source project.
2. Delete the audio tracks from the source project and save it as a template (.cwt).
3. Close the source project.
4. Open the template and then open the target project so that both are open within SONAR. If you have a two-monitor setup, you can stretch SONAR across both screens, and adjust the project sizes so each project fits in its own screen.
5. Mass-drag the audio from the target project to the template, then save this as a conventional SONAR project. 
 
Now if you change the mix for the source project, you should be to apply it to the target project.
 
 
2016/07/04 11:52:38
tzzsmk
sounds interesting I'll try it :) I have 2560x1440 monitor, so I can open 2 projects side-by-side quite comfortably
2016/07/04 18:27:03
brconflict
tzzsmk
I cannot magically template already recorded and pre-mixed projects,


Agreed. This is the crux of the thread, and there's not a good workaround at the moment. Templates is out in my opinion. The process of using templates and importing audio described, I find to be actually more time-consuming than visually applying the same changes from one project to the next. Any way I can slice this, there's not yet a swift, easy way to copy a mix from one project to the next, when the audio has already been recorded. And this is the one process in the workflow that consumed more than 60% of my time using Sonar. I'm hopeful Cakewalk will see more usefulness to copying a mix across a slew of projects, or the ability to Sync a group of projects anytime I need to re-adjust the snare drum or bass, for example. Even a minor compressor ratio change applied to 20 projects within a minute would be quite handy. :)
 
 
2016/07/05 03:09:14
Boydie
I cannot magically template already recorded and pre-mixed projects, so I guess there is no solution possible yet -_-
and it also makes little sense to use templates, because I usually choose plugins according to what it sounds like, not what instrument/mic I use, so again no good solution in my opinion :P


I am clearly not understanding what you want to achieve as it seems you want to use the SAME mix from different projects (then surely dragging in new audio to an existing template is a good start - even if it is from one project to another if it is already recorded) but you also want to choose different plug ins and mixes, which is a completely different mix isn't it?

I am not understanding how importing a mix scene from another project will help as surely the result of importing a mix scene will override your plugin settings and give you the same results as importing you audio in to another project with the same mix scene???

I am sure it is my lack of understanding in what you are trying to achieve (and brconflicts example about changing a compressor setting across projects makes sense)

So are you in fact looking for a solution where you create a mix and then when you tweak it - it gets changed across multiple projects?

I tend to mix studio projects so have not encountered this limitation as I use (and re-use templates) but I can see the use if mixing a live project

Here's an idea...

Could you mix all of the songs within the same sonar project - IE put the different songs at different points in the timeline?

You could then create a mix recall for each song within the same project and export each song by selecting a time range before export?
2016/07/05 10:58:27
brconflict
Boydie


Could you mix all of the songs within the same sonar project - IE put the different songs at different points in the timeline?

You could then create a mix recall for each song within the same project and export each song by selecting a time range before export?



You sure can! And this would be like a tip of the hat back to analog tape and how those sessions typically went. Unfortunately, your project might be quite large and take a bit to load. I do not know how well Sonar will work on such a large file, unless you've got loads of RAM. Just a guess.
 
Anyway, this idea I keep harping on (Project Sync Groups) allows you to mix one song as an initial Mix for the entire album. Once done, you can sync all the others as a starting point. As your mixing takes a divergent approach per song, you can easily uncheck what is sync'd between the songs. But until the entire mixes of each song are different, you can use PSG's to quickly sync changes from one project to the rest without disrupting elements that are obviously different (such as where one song has a mandolin, but the rest do not).  I'll have to re-film a video of the idea, because I think I can better illustrate it by faking the results.
2016/07/05 11:08:41
listen
There are some great discussion that are relevant and add intellectual capital - this is one of them...
2016/07/05 12:55:47
Boydie
brconflict - that makes a lot of sense and I can see the use. Thanks for the explanation
2016/07/12 16:16:07
tzzsmk
"You could then create a mix recall for each song within the same project and export each song by selecting a time range before export?"
 
this is actually what I use a lot for rehearsal live recordings, definitely neat feature of sonar :)
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