So I'm using an instance of Kontact with 6 midi tracks feeding 6 instruments in a multi.  Seemed like a right move, except now when I go to mix my song, the midi tracks can't really be mixed with the Sonar volume faders because they only trim midi note velocity.
 
I can Midi Learn the Kontact instrument volume controls to sliders on my MPK88 controller, but that doesn't really help me mix using the Sonar console.
 
What I'd like to do is map the Sonar midi track volume slider(s) to the associated Kontack instrument's volume slider.  So I can adjust volume all in the Sonar console view.  But I don't know how to do that...
 
What's the best way to deal with this?
 
Thanks!
 

change the tracks to audio (freeze) and fader away.

Thanks for the response!  So I clicked the freeze button and waited for Sonar to render the clip.  But the track still shows MIDI notes, and the volume slider still doesn't adjust the volume.  (In fact, the volume slider does nothing since the clip is frozen.)
 
I could bounce to track and create a new audio track for each Kontact instrument.  (That might be my best path...)
 
I could create separate instances of Kontact and convert the midi tracks to instrument tracks.  (If I had a lot of editing left to do on the midi I'd probably pick this route...)
 
My lesson learned is to use instrument tracks from the start and eat the cpu/mem costs of the separate Kontact instances.  I think the biggest hit is sample data, and I take that hit regardless of have 1 or 6 instances of Kontact.
 
Please correct me if I'm missing something.
 
Thanks!
 

Sorry - I am a bit confused. It sounds like you are trying to mix the midi levels using the midi faders instead of the audio track faders.
 
1.  Do you have each instrument in the Kontakt instance routed to its own Kontakt audio output channels?
 
2.  Do you then have separate audio tracks inserted into your Sonar project and routed to pick up the separated output from each corresponding instrument's audio output from the Kontakt instance?  (so that rather than all the instruments in the Kontakt instance using ST1 for audio output, there is one stereo output in the Kontakt instance for each instrument in the instance - ST1 ST2 ST3, etc., and separate audio tracks in the project assigned to each of the separate outputs for each instrument from the Kontakt instance?)
 
3.  OR, are all your instruments in the Kontakt instance sharing a single ST1 audio output, and then you are attempting to control volume using the midi track faders for each of the instruments?
 
For MY projects, I load up 5-6 instruments into a single Kontakt instance, then I:
 
1.  Go into the Instrument settings for each instrument in the instance (using the wrench icon for each of the instruments and then clicking on Instrument to get to those settings), and once there I make sure that there I remove the check for the parameter that is labelled something like Accept Standard CC 7 and CC 11 volume.... (or something like that I don't have Kontakt open at the moment).
 
2.  Make sure the Output Section is open (there is a button at the top of the Kontakt instance for this), which opens up Kontakt's audio output channels, then click on the Batch Functions and click on the one that says something like 'Delete all output assignments and create one output channel for each loaded instrument'.  Doing this gives each loaded instrument a separate stereo output channel from the Kontakt instance.  (I also then rename each of the outputs to something shorter than what Kontakt names them - it tries to mash the preset name to be that output channel's name, and I prefer shorter names, like Piano, Organ, Violin, etc)
 
3.  Insert a midi track for each loaded instrument (sounds like you have this done already), and set the output to go to the proper Kontakt instance.  (I may havee 3-4 or more instances).  I also then set the Midi output channel for each midi track to the correct midi channel assigned to each instrument in the instance.  The midi output channel is set in each midi track, just below the FX Bin.
 
4.  Insert a single stereo audio track or a left and right mono track, for each of the loaded instruments from the instance, and set the input for each track to the appropriate audio output from the instrument's output channel from the Kontakt instance.  Because I renamed my output channels in the Kontakt instance, these are much easier to read in the drop-down presentation of outputs to pick from when assigning the audio track inputs.
 
5.  Now, I control all volumes for all of the instruments from the Kontakt instance through a combination of the instrument's output from the Kontakt instance, the Gain knob for the audio track(s) for that instrument, and I generally set everything initially so that all instruments run at around -18 dB, and I leave the audio track faders at unity.
 
6.  Once I begin mixing, I only have to adjust the faders for each track - or possibly also the Gain, but I NEVER have to mess with the midi faders whatsoever.
 
So - please run through how you are set up and how you are attempting to control things - THANKS. :)
 
Bob Bone
 

Bob,
 
Thanks for that great tutorial!
 
I was using one st1.1 output from Kontakt for all instruments.  The way I got around it (not recommending this) was to mute all but one instrument, freeze that instrument, create an audio track named for that instrument, ctrl+shift drag the generated audio from Kontakt to the audio track, then repeating for all instruments.  Then I mixed the resultant audio tracks.  Of course I can't change the MIDI without repeating the mute/freeze/copy process...
 
Next time I think I'll just use 6 instances of Kontakt on 6 instrument tracks.  Once I figure out the shortfalls of that approach I'll probably end following your tutorial... (Cuz I'm a slow learner! lol)
 
Cheers!
 

You do know that Kontakt can send audio to separate audio outs, an out for each instrument, right?  

I recommend you do NOT use 1 separate instance of Kontakt for each instrument you plan to use in the project that uses Kontakt, but that instead, you take a closer look at my earlier post.
 
I ROUTINELY use one or more instance of Kontakt in my projects, BUT, each Kontakt instance will contain up to 5-6 loaded instruments, EACH instrument being set to have its own separate stereo output channel in Kontakt (again, look at my post again - slowly, and ask questions if you need to), AND I COMPLETELY control volume and added effects and panning and everything for EACH of those instruments with separate Sonar audio tracks and a separate Sonar midi track for each of the instruments from that single instance of Kontakt.
 
Again, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE take another really good look at what I posted, and please please please post as many questions as you need to about how to actually do what I do, until you too are able to control the audio and midi of 5-6 instruments for a single Kontakt instance.
 
I PROMISE you, I will stay up late and get up early to try to help you to understand how to do this, and once you get it, you will be VERY much more happier than you could possibly be with all the work you are going through to try to get to the same place that I get to in just a couple of minutes per instance.
 
OK?  So, IF you go back and read my post again, and try it out for yourself, AND post back as many times as you need to, with as many questions as you need to ask, even if they are repeats of questions already asked, I will then PROMISE to take whatever time that is needed to respond to each of your questions, and will work with you for as long as it takes you to 'get' doing this.
 
Deal? :)
 
Bob Bone

FWIW I haven't found any disadvantage in running a separate instance of Kontakt for each instrument. I have found little to no performance difference and am able to have a separate track template for each of my goto sounds.

Same here, I find it way easier to deal with, even though one multi out instance is the "correct" way to go.

Certainly loading up a bunch of single instrument instances of Kontakt is pretty simple, but the OP had specifically indicated the following (copy/paste from initial post of this thread):
 
"What I'd like to do is map the Sonar midi track volume slider(s) to the associated Kontack instrument's volume slider.  So I can adjust volume all in the Sonar console view.  But I don't know how to do that...
 
What's the best way to deal with this?"
 
Sooo, that is why I offered the explanation, as well as the offer to work with him to show him how to set up a single Kontakt instance with multiple loaded instruments, with each instrument having its own separate audio channel output from that Kontakt instance, and then get the Sonar audio and midi tracks created and configured properly to pick up the audio output and get it sent to the appropriate audio tracks, as well as get the midi tracks setup and configured to send data on the correct midi channel for each of the loaded instruments, thus giving him what he had asked for in the initial post.
 
My offer remains, for the original poster, or for anyone else trying to figure out how to do the above successfully.
 
Bob Bone