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2008/10/19 06:29:02
Malakidreams
Im using ez drummer for my drums and I usually will record kick and snare on 1 track. highhat on another track.cymbals on another track. toms on another track and overdub. When I open the synthrack the ezdrummer program pops up and I have a mixer for the kick,snare,the 3 toms and the highhat. With this I can control the volume and pan of each of these drum sounds. the problem Im having is, on track 1 Im recording the bass drum and the snare. I may possibly want to add reverb to the snare and not the bass drum. The mixer doesnt have the option to add a seperate effect to each part of the drum set. Will I have to record the bass drum on 1 track and the snare on a seperate so I can add reverb to the snare? this is not easy to do. the bass and snare at the same time is definately easier. there has to be an easier way to add reverb to just the snare even though the kick and snare track are together being that its midi. let ne know if you know how to do this. thanks
2008/10/19 07:14:40
SteveStrummerUK
Hi Kevin

You're on the right lines with your set up but not quite, try this to get eight distinct tracks to work with from your kit, including the all important separation of kick and snare.

When you open EZ Drummer, select All Synth Audio outputs: Stereo in the Create Tracks options.

Now EZ Drummer will load the MIDI track but also eight other tracks inside the folder:



Open the EZ Drummer mixer and in the horizontal Output strip, right click on Trk 1 in one of the columns and from the drop-down list that appears, select Multichannel

By default, EZ Drummer assigns the 8 kit microphones to these tracks that inserted in MC:

Track 1 = Kick
Track 2 = Snare Top
Track 3 = Snare Bottom
Track 4 = Hi-Hat
Track 5 = Tom 1, Tom 2, Tom 3
Track 6 = Overhead (Cymbals)
Track 7 = Room (Ambient)
Track 8 = (empty)



By right clicking in the appropriate output area of each track in the EZ mixer, you can assign the microphones to any part of your kit so you can completely customise how it works.

Anyway, once you've recorded your drum parts, you can edit the kick and snare, as well as all the other mic tracks independently of each other.

Hope that helps

Steve











Edit - typo
2008/10/19 18:26:05
ascottdesign
That EZ drummer set up looks really cool Steve...Will need to check this out...
2008/10/19 18:32:24
SteveStrummerUK

ORIGINAL: ascottdesign

That EZ drummer set up looks really cool Steve...Will need to check this out...

It's a great bit of gear Alan - really excellent sounds and so easy to use!

HERE'S just the drum track I did for one of our VeRy MeTaL songs if you want to hear it in isolation.
2008/10/20 03:00:41
Malakidreams
thanks steve. this will be awesome once I figure it out. I inserted ez drummer and selected All Synth Audio outputs: Stereo. The 8 tracks did pop up and the midi track. I opened the mixer and on track 1 right clicked and tried to select the output to multi channel and it didnt allow me to. I could select tracks 1-8 but when trying to select stereo or multichannel it would just go back to track1. If I go to track 2 the snare track, right click it, it will also only allow me to select tracks 1-8. when I select stereo or multi channel it goes back to track 2. so on and so on . Im not sure why Its not letting me select multichannel. any ideas?
2008/10/20 03:09:02
Malakidreams
also, I like to seperate the tracks so its easier. maybe I would do the highhat and cymbals on 1 recording. then overdub the kick and snare. then the toms. its just easier to overdub then to do everything at once.
2008/10/20 03:11:25
Malakidreams
yeah, It wont let me select multi channel.
2008/10/20 03:17:20
Malakidreams
the boxes I have checked when you first open it are Midi Source, All synth audio outputs:stereo,Synth rack view,
on Display automation part I have First synth audio selected. also recall assignable controls and ask this everytime are checked.
2008/10/20 08:54:15
Beagle
you don't want to select multichannel for what you're after anyway - you want to select individual tracks for each instrument you want on different outputs. look at Steve's picture of the drum kit - see how each of those kit pieces are listed under a different TRK? (except he has all 3 Toms on one channel).
2008/10/20 15:57:38
Malakidreams
well, I read the manual and it says: You can however route any instrument or microphone to
any of the 8 available stereo tracks mapped to EZdrummer’s
outputs. This will allow you to benefit from the maximum
flexibility that your sequencer has to offer.
To perform the above click one of the mixer tracks and
select multichannel. This will select the most appropriate
routing for the kit. Of course your host has to be set up
accordingly to capture these outputs (see your application’s
manual for details). So I selected multi track on the first track and it assigned each mic to a track exactly like steves picture. When I tried to record it still is recording only in 1 track and not seperating the drums on different tracks. maybe my host isnt set up to capture theses outputs?
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