• SONAR
  • Lets fully understand what Cakewalk is offering with Lifetime updates. (p.2)
2016/06/03 09:38:05
John
bapu
I think a forum host should lock this thread before it gets ugly.


I hope you're joking. I don't find it very funny. 
2016/06/03 10:07:24
Wood67
Actually, there is quite a lot of financial information you can find - and in many cases up to date and free.  Indeed, Gibson had their credit rating downgraded by at least one of the major CRAs in March this year, and the related (freely available) Press Release points to why.  A glance through recent Cashflow and Balance Sheet data gives some pretty good clues.
 
But that's a bit off-topic for this thread, other than to note that if cashflow and the need to service short-term debt is a priority, then a business model that encourages the customer base to put in more funding now makes some sense.
2016/06/03 10:15:06
JayCee99
John, I actually agree with what you said above.  But do you work for Cakewalk?  If not, aren't you just challenging speculation with further speculation?  Might be better to let the Cakewalk staff handle it.
2016/06/03 10:25:23
azslow3
John
Your using a fallacious argument. The point is not what funding is available to CW but rather no user here knows what is the state of CW funding.  That is why no is the right answer. Its a speculation not a fact that CW is low on funds.    
 
Edit to add this.
 
Put this another way the no means speculating on something no one knows anything about is fallacious in the extrema and unworthy of consideration.

My point was based on one real fact: before and after the Announcement abount another Announcement which has announced that something is going to come later... They have collecting the money, NOW. And so, that is a fund raising.
 
What is just a speculation is why they do so. Someone write they are low on fonds (I agree there is no evidence to think so), you write that is an award (I refuse to agree that collecting money for something in the relatively far future can be called an award), I think that was done to burst current development (you and other can disagree). ALL that are pure speculations.
 
Based on my opinion, I believe they manage to make it. And so I am a lifetime Platinum user (since last week).
You can percept it as an award, with the same result for them.
 
For someone the words "core features only" + current difference between Pro and Plat versions + equal updates for lifetime and timed membership are opening the question "how Plat is going to be different from Pro for customers which already have all current Plat features?". I am also a bit puzzled, in another thread I see you also recognize that uncertainty... Not that the topic is relevant for me (as lifetime Plat user), but for someone it is.
But I think if there are any myths in this forum, they all either intentionally or unintentionally are created by CW (and before you write there was no intention... making announcement about announcement always creates some myth  )
2016/06/03 10:48:10
bluzdog
John
bapu
I think a forum host should lock this thread before it gets ugly.


I hope you're joking. I don't find it very funny. 




I agree with Baps, this thread fuels the fire that's been raging for the last few days.
 
Rocky
 
 
2016/06/03 11:07:44
...wicked
Why even give these people any justification? This happens EVERY time a major change occurs or a new version of SONAR comes out. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. All of this doomsday paranoia is just that. Geez it's our chance to celebrate and feel great about being loyal customers since the frickin' 80's for criminey's sake. I think every single thing Cake announced is great and I'm stoked. Let these fools rant all they want without trying to equivocate them...they will not be appeased until they are on the other side of this.
2016/06/03 11:12:30
John
rlared
John, I actually agree with what you said above.  But do you work for Cakewalk?  If not, aren't you just challenging speculation with further speculation?  Might be better to let the Cakewalk staff handle it.


If someone uses fictitious data i.e. the finances of CW to justify an argument without having any access to that data it can only be seen as pure speculation.  Pointing this out is not the same as making a speculation based on no data.   
 
I do not work for CW.   
2016/06/03 11:12:56
JonD
I honestly don't care if CW is low on funds or high on life, the lifetime upgrades is a no-brainer deal.  It it utterly pointless to speculate and worry about their reasons for offering it.  I'm just glad that they are.  
2016/06/03 11:15:31
Anderton
Wood67
Scenario 1: Sonar Platinum retains it's name indefinitely (it becomes Logic or ProTools) with the only difference being version numbers.  Does Lifetime in that case continue through all major and point releases - probably yes.



This is the correct scenario. 
2016/06/03 11:17:01
John
bluzdog
John
bapu
I think a forum host should lock this thread before it gets ugly.


I hope you're joking. I don't find it very funny. 




I agree with Baps, this thread fuels the fire that's been raging for the last few days.
 
Rocky
 
 


You do realize I am a host. No host is going to lock this thread at lease not without asking me first. 
Bapu knows this.
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