2016/02/26 11:26:36
WallyG
Although my hearing is normal for my age (my wife might disagree :-), I know that my high frequency response is probably down a hundred dB or so. I'm looking at Graphic Equalized Hearing Aids as a solution to help get a better mix. 
 
Anyone have any experience with GEHA? (After I typed that out, it sounded so South Western). You can also PM me if you prefer.
 
Thanks,
 
Walt
2016/02/26 18:15:21
bapu
No experience yet. I'm interested in this though.
 
In all tests I've taken I hear almost nothing after 6K. To be fair, I've had significant inner ear infections and operation (5 in total) on both ears so all in all at 63 I'm not doing terrible.
2016/02/26 18:17:40
bapu
Unfortunately I cannot always run speakers in my hobby studio (too close in proximity o where The Lovely Lady works and it disturbs here work) so I rely more on headphones than speakers these days.
 
2016/02/26 19:21:08
fireberd
I got hearing aids a little over a year ago.  I'm 78 and high frequency loss was to the point I either get them or quit recording.  I have "Rexton" hearing aids, the type that fit behind the ear with a tube to the ear canal (what Blue Cross would pay for).  It fixed the high frequency response and "playing the tv too loud".
 
I had to get used to them on stage.  My Pedal Steel Guitar sounded totally different and I would have to ask other band members how I sounded.  It took about a month to get accustomed to them on stage and the real tone. 
 
"GEHA".  Is that a brand?  As a retired Federal Civil Service we had "GEHA" as one of the health insurance providers.  GEHA - Government Employee Health Association. 
 
 
2016/02/26 19:57:54
WallyG
bapu
Unfortunately I cannot always run speakers in my hobby studio (too close in proximity o where The Lovely Lady works and it disturbs here work) so I rely more on headphones than speakers these days.
 


Anybody that refers to his wife as "The Lovely Lady" is going to live a long and happy life! 
 
Walt
PS: Mines the "Goddess!"
2016/02/26 20:03:21
WallyG
fireberd
...."GEHA".  Is that a brand?  As a retired Federal Civil Service we had "GEHA" as one of the health insurance providers.  GEHA - Government Employee Health Association. 



It was an acronym for Graphic Equalized Hearing Aid. But as a resident of Arizona, all I could think of after I typed GEHA was Yeee-Haah! Hey it's Friday... 
 
Thanks for you hearing aid story!
 
Walt
2016/02/26 20:06:35
WallyG
bapu
No experience yet. I'm interested in this though....

 
I have a hearing test at the Mayo Clinic in Phoenix March 7th and will post my results and Mayo recommendations, since I'm sure there are a lot of the musicans/recording engineers on this forum that might be interested.
 
Walt
 
2016/02/27 22:29:40
Cactus Music
My wife just got a set of real good hearing aids. They were said to have cost $ 5,500. Luckily we didn't pay that for them as  she inherited them when her Mom passed away. Her Mom never really used them because like a lot of folks she prefered NOT to hear. The TV was always at 80. 
 
We paid $ 500 to have them re furbished. They tested her in a sound proof booth ( I want one) and her EQ curve showed falling off sharply in the high end. She worked in a dental clinic for 30 years and we think it was the ultrasonics. 
Anyway I became "enlightened" to the technology and how it works. 
 
We audio dudes at least understand what a EQ graph looks like! 
The hearing test results in a frequency graph for each ear. 
The technician simply overlays EQ until they get closer to a flat response on the graph. 
They use a bluetooth system to access the guts of the aids. 
It's special software etc. very impressive. 
She immediately noticed the difference and now could hear sibilance in speech. At first she didn't like it but gets better as your brain re adjusts.  
 
But as far a musicains go, you can accomplish the same by having the test, get a print out of your graph and simply EQ your listening system. Most of us can make up for having a bumpy EQ graph as we "learn" our monitors etc. But if that EQ graph is way off in a few places your brain will not be able to compensate. 
 
In a live band situation we  use in ear monitors now a day's. Hearing aids don't work well with amplified sound. If you havn't yet gone with in ears, do it.   I use a hardwired system.   Wireless costs way to much  and is only really needed if you're running around the stage. 
 
In the studio I imagine they would solve the problem to a point, but just like in ears, your going to have to pay top dollar to get hi fi sound. I would say, EQ your speakers to match your personal short comings. Hearing aids will probably diminish  hearing the full spectrum and make it harder to mix properly. You might as well wear open back headphones.  
 
Hearing aids that don't have EQ are only little amplifiers and do not solve the real issue with most types of hearing loss. 
At the care home where I work we use "pocket talkers" with much better results than cheapo hearing aids. 
A pocket talker is a small amplifier with an omni mike and a set of headphones. You can wear it around your neck or ,like the title says, put it in your shirt pocket. They are not very glamorous but do they ever work great. 
 
2016/02/28 06:44:48
fireberd
Mine are the Bluetooth type like mentioned.  They can be programmed by the Hearing Aid tech as needed.  Mine has 3 settings.  "Normal" which is both mic's in the hearing aids for forward and rear reception.  "Forward" only which is supposed to reduce background chatter in noisy places such as a restaurant.  Third is "Music" which does not have any compression/noise reduction.  Its basically useless as its noisy.  I use the "normal" setting almost exclusively.
2016/02/28 11:11:57
WallyG
Cactus Music
...But as far a musicains go, you can accomplish the same by having the test, get a print out of your graph and simply EQ your listening system....



Depending on how my hearing test goes, that might be an interesting concept to try out.
 
Thanks,
 
Walt
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