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2016/06/23 11:28:26
zoffmeister
Hi, as of yesterday all of my UAD plugins are behaving weirdly. They all produce a stereo effect. What it sounds like to me is hard right is the unprocessed sound and hard left is the processed sound. Makes no difference whether it's an EQ, Compressor or reverb. They all do it. Cannot fathom why.

In Realverb Pro you will notice a bunch of horizontal sliders in the bottom right of the plugin window, they all relate to stereo positioning of various elements. They are all greyed out. Never seen that before.

For example I place the 1176LN in the insert of a mono vocal track. I get a dry but delayed vocal on the right and the processed compressed vocal on the left. This problem is not happening with plugins from other vendors. I place the compressor on the stereo drums bus and suddenly I have two versions of my snare, one on the left and one on the right instead of it being down the middle.
Anyone have any idea what's happening? I updated to version 8.6 of the UAD software, it made no difference.

I asked this question on the UAD forum but only got one reply from a guy who remembers it happening to him a few years ago but can't remember why or how it was solved.
 
Is SONAR responsible at all, has anyone else noticed anything similar happen?
Help, currently my UAD plugins are unusable.
2016/06/23 11:32:21
Sanderxpander
Did you update Sonar to 2016.6 yesterday?
2016/06/23 11:35:24
zoffmeister
no, will that solve it? or are you wondering if that caused it. I'm still on 2016.5
 
2016/06/23 14:43:03
Zargg
Hi. I just finished doing a fresh install of both Windows, SONAR and a few UAD plugins (amongst others) the last couple of days. I just tried some of them on an old project, without any issues. I have the latest UAD, SONAR and Windows is up to date. 
When did you notice this? 
All the best.
2016/06/23 16:17:46
jimkleban
Honestly, I have found some odd issues with 2016.05 as well with UAD but want to install 06 to see if that clears them up.
 
One of the things I did notice in 05 is that a NEW project BYPASSes the FX bins by default.  This drove me nuts for awhile in that the plug color remains ORANGE when bypassed (albeit, I noticed a NOT AS BRIGHT orange which led to decipher why my plugins weren't working).  Not sure if this has been reported already, if it is just my DAW and/or if this too is already fixed in 06.
 
Jim
 
PS - would be NICE if the bakers could indicate with a different color scheme or maker for bypass plugs.  Before Titanium, they were greyed out and easy to see.
2016/06/23 16:29:12
Zargg
jimkleban
Honestly, I have found some odd issues with 2016.05 as well with UAD but want to install 06 to see if that clears them up.
 
One of the things I did notice in 05 is that a NEW project BYPASSes the FX bins by default.  This drove me nuts for awhile in that the plug color remains ORANGE when bypassed (albeit, I noticed a NOT AS BRIGHT orange which led to decipher why my plugins weren't working).  Not sure if this has been reported already, if it is just my DAW and/or if this too is already fixed in 06.
 
Jim
 

I have been using the latest UAD software (and SONAR always up to date) after upgrading / updating to Win 10 (the day after they released it), and did not have any UAD issues. I makes me think it is a settings issue of some sort.
All the best.
2016/06/23 23:18:07
benjaminfrog
Hi. Might you be using mono versions of the plugins on stereo tracks? I know you referenced a mono vocal track, but it's possible to have a mono clip on a stereo track, so I thought I'd ask.
2016/06/23 23:36:04
scook
Starting with 2016.04 track interleave does not get set to mono when setting track input to mono.  Could this be the issue?
2016/06/24 10:14:58
zoffmeister
benjaminfrog
Hi. Might you be using mono versions of the plugins on stereo tracks? I know you referenced a mono vocal track, but it's possible to have a mono clip on a stereo track, so I thought I'd ask.


I wonder if this is the issue. I did something new the other day. I got fed up of trawling through dozens and dozens of UAD plugins, most of which I don't have the licenses for, just to load the one I want. So I went to plugin manager and created a myUAD folder into which I copied the 13 UAD plugins I do own. Now I can go straight to that folder and find what I want immediately. I wonder if it was the mono instances of those plugins that I copied there or vice versa and that is causing the issue. I'll try replacing the plugin with the one from the original folder and see if the problem goes away.
2016/06/24 15:15:16
stxx
Yes try using mono on mono channel OR switch to whatever the  current interleave isn't if you know what I mean.   Do one UAD plug at a time as they all don't cause that behavior. ALSO, try moving the plugin from one channel to another and then back again.   I know these are weird solutions but at different times they work.
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