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2016/06/08 22:21:45
abacab
azslow3
 
I also consider US-2x2 (for different interface the answer can be different). In general, everything is correct... but with small corrections:
 
A. you will need 2 MIDI cables (2 directions). Or you can use one USB cable instead (just for MIDI in this setup, there is no limitation how many different MIDI inputs/outputs are used simultaneously and either they are coming from the same hardware as audio)
B. and C. US-2x2 has combo jacks, fro XRL or TS or TRS. So you will need 1/4 to 1/4 cables, not 1/4 to XLR
D. US-2x2 can run in standalone mode, you will just need a power supply for it (so it works with the computer switched off). No need to reconnect monitors then.


Just to add, it appears that the previously mentioned Tascam US-2x2 is also capable of standalone use, with an optional power adapter. For instance, if you wanted to play the keyboard through your monitors without starting the PC and/or Sonar.
 
From the Tascam reference manual: http://tascam.com/product/us-2x2/downloads/
 
9 – Standalone Mode
Overview
This unit will operate in standalone mode if it is turned on when
it is not connected to a computer by USB.
You can use this unit as a mic preamp and to monitor input
signals.
This function is convenient when you want to practice an
instrument without recording, for example.
However, when using US-2x2 in standalone mode, a TASCAM
PS-P520 DC5V AC adapter (sold separately), which is designed
for use with this unit, is necessary.

Settings in standalone mode
When operating in standalone mode, input signals pass-through
the built-in digital mixer and output selector, which are set at
fixed values, and are output from the output jacks. In addition,
when operating in standalone mode, the USB indicator will
blink.
 
2016/06/09 12:22:02
Markubl2
Sincere thanks to each of you for helping me out over the past few days on my questions.  This has been BY FAR the most helpful forum I have visited.  Quite honestly, you guys are the reason I will probably pull the trigger on Sonar.  
 
Now, I just need to decide which interface to use, Gen2 Focusrite or the Tascam US 2x2.  The Focusrite is newer and seems to get a bit better reviews, but the Tascam includes a version of Sonar I could use to get a cheaper SPLAT upgrade, and can be powered either USB or wall plug.
 
Again, thank you.
2016/06/09 13:02:59
spacey
Both have free shipping if you're a prime member at Amazon.
 
Focusrite is boasting low latency and the Tascam isn't...Amazon info I read.
 
Not knowing about either I'd go with the Tascam. It's cheaper, looks better and has an offer that could benefit you.
Amazon is great for returns for prime members-not sure if one isn't, so it's really not much of a gamble when you're not sure. Don't like it send it back and try the Focusrite.
2016/06/09 13:14:56
ChristopherM
Is Sonar Platinum Too Much for A Beginner? It's too much for someone with more than twenty years' experience with Cakewalk products. I still find myself reaching (clicking?) for the Reference Manual and searching its 2188 pages for answers more often than I'd like. Sometimes I can't even find a way of framing the question.
2016/06/09 13:57:10
abacab
husker
Sincere thanks to each of you for helping me out over the past few days on my questions.  This has been BY FAR the most helpful forum I have visited.  Quite honestly, you guys are the reason I will probably pull the trigger on Sonar.  
 
Now, I just need to decide which interface to use, Gen2 Focusrite or the Tascam US 2x2.  The Focusrite is newer and seems to get a bit better reviews, but the Tascam includes a version of Sonar I could use to get a cheaper SPLAT upgrade, and can be powered either USB or wall plug.
 
Again, thank you.




Tascam US-2x2 is $105 at Amazon (not including $40 for wall plug).  The US-4x4 is $195 including the wall plug.  Plus Amazon has a liberal return policy up to 30 days.
2016/06/09 14:20:40
bapu
ChristopherM
Sometimes I can't even find a way of framing the question.



HTH
2016/06/09 14:23:07
djwayne
Is Sonar too much for a beginner ?? If I could start over and just buy Sonar instead of all the other stuff I bought, I would have saved many thousands of dollars over the long run.
2016/06/09 15:50:23
Anderton
I use the TASCAM US-2x2 while travelling, the US-4x4 in the office, and the US-20x20 in my studio. Of course you might expect I'd use TASCAM because it's a Gibson Brand, however no one is looking over my shoulder in my home studio so I can use whatever I want 
 
I've reviewed several Focusrite interfaces and there's no question the company knows how to make quality interfaces, and they are very popular for a reason. However, I've also tested the TASCAM interfaces because they exceeded my expectations compared to previous generations, and I wanted to see if the improvements I heard were measurable.
 
I used these measurements as the basis for a Cakewalk blog post "Five Questions about Audio Specs." As you'll see, TASCAM's specs back up their claims.
 
 
2016/06/09 16:24:55
raweber
Husker, it looks like you're well on your way. Here are my 2 cents:
 
You asked earlier if there were non-workstation keyboards with with lots of sounds. The good news is YES! The Yamaha S90-XS and the Roland Juno DS-88 would be examples of those. I'm sure Korg, Kurzweil and Nord all have their versions, too. Buying a "performance" keyboard over a workstation would probably save you $1000 or more from your total cost and you wouldn'y be buying redundant features. I have a Yamaha S90-ES (XS predecessor) that I only use the sounds for playing live. Otherwise it functions purely as a MIDI controller. FYI, I don't both with MIDI cables, just plug directly into my computer via USB.
 
The Tascam interface will work fine for you provided is works at all for you. I tried a Tascam a couple of years ago and it didn't work with my computer. Returned it for a Focusrite Scarlett and haven't looked back. Since the Scarlett isn't bus-powered (separate wall plug) and I don't turn it off I can sit down and play the Yamaha without the computer any time I want. I assume the Tascam has a wall-powered option.
 
So, I would start there and with SPLAT (what other answer did you expect from this forum?) I might have recommended Studio One but recent upgrades to Sonar have pushed it even to above everything else out there (don't even bother with Pro Tools). Add to this a decent set of powered monitors (KRK Rokit 5's are popular options - I own a pair and have no real complaints).
 
Later, when you want to add more to your system. I would look at an Arturia Analog Factory which will get you a decent MIDI controller with lots of features and a ton of analog modeled sounds to play with. As mentioned earlier, you can't go wrong with NI Komplete.
 
Good luck, have fun and keep asking questions!
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