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e.Blue

sharke
 
Why can't you just kill the task manually in the task manager? 

On my system, the SONARPLT.exe task will not allow itself to be killed manually in the task manager after a crash. It simply ignores the command. I'm pretty sure that it has something to do with releasing the audio hardware devices.
 
-e.B

More of concern should be WHY you are getting these crashes.
 
I haven't had a crash for months and I've revisited many very old projects dating back to 6PE.

If I was a betting man my money would be on the use of 32 bit plugins in X64 Sonar . Crashes have been very rare events indeed since I made the decision to abandon their use.  

e.Blue

sharke
 
Why can't you just kill the task manually in the task manager? 

On my system, the SONARPLT.exe task will not allow itself to be killed manually in the task manager after a crash. It simply ignores the command. I'm pretty sure that it has something to do with releasing the audio hardware devices.
 
-e.B

well what is your "System" ? you would fair better by having your signature filled out so others can compare, or even help with some of these things.
 
your right about loop recording, and even some of the loop functions in general, those could use a tune up under the hood.
but the crashes, I can recover from a crash almost immediately. older versions of sonar I would be waiting days to re start. but ever since platinum came out, I noticed an instant change in crash time response.
 
im not sure it has to do with the release of audio hardware as much as it has to do with Midi hardware, usb controllers, exc. but that's what used to happen to me, in my case it was a M Audio Oxygen that held me hostage but like I said not any more.
 

Sorry folks, I didn't mean to imply that SONAR crashes frequently...anymore. Like I mentioned, I'm pretty sure that the locked task issue is related to specific audio hardware. 
I don't often use 32-bit plugins much, mainly because of the kludgy implementation. Ideally, I'd prefer not to use the few 32-bit plugins that I still have at all, but they are tied to my hardware eg. TC Powercore/Access Virus, V-Studio/Roland Fantom G. I honestly have never seen any real correlation between increased crashes and 32-bit plugins.
As a long-time Cakewalk customer, I've built and used enough SONAR systems to know that the issues that I mentioned above are not tied solely to my current hardware configuration. If you do a forum search you will find the SONARPLT.exe task issue mentioned by several others.
With the exception of the VS-700R audio interface, every issue that I've mentioned predates my current system configuration, including OS and PC hardware. The issue could very well be with the VS-700R interface, but other DAWs simply seem to handle crashes better with it. Speaking of hardware, if you're interested, you can see my system specs by following the link in my signature.
 
-e.B

e.Blue
 
 

• Zombie mode - If you have an external audio interface and it is not turned on or another program is using it, SONAR detects it as missing and warns you, YET CONTINUES LOADING! When it finishes loading, you essentially have SONAR running in a useless ZOMBIE MODE. You then have to shut it down, turn on the interface and then load SONAR all over again. Most other DAWs will pause and allow you to RETRY detecting the interface or simply refuse to load until the interface is turned on.

I like what you call zombie mode. I had my interface in the shop and was able to personalize/tinker with sonar settings in the interim. Plus there is a setting in "Preferences -> Playback and Recording" to share the audio drivers with other programs.
 
I agree that Folder information could be improved and I like the ideal of auto-loading of a synths icon when creating an instrument track.

Shrink or stretching second and subsequent split audio clips (Ctrl+drag) sets Snap Offset to random non-zero value, causing unexpected snap-to-grid behavior.
 
This drives me mad. Has existed since Sonar 7, I think.

John T
I have that problem sometimes, but I've never had any problems just shutting down Windows and restarting.

Having to restart your computer because one program crashes completely eliminates the advancements that multi-tasking has provided to modern computers.
 
-e.B

musicroom
 
I like what you call zombie mode. I had my interface in the shop and was able to personalize/tinker with sonar settings in the interim. Plus there is a setting in "Preferences -> Playback and Recording" to share the audio drivers with other programs.
 

I don't think he's suggesting that zombie mode goes away but just that a retry option is available.  It could just be a simple Retry button on the existing warning dialogs.  It's a simple thing that would improve the user experience for some of us.  

Dave76

musicroom
 
I like what you call zombie mode. I had my interface in the shop and was able to personalize/tinker with sonar settings in the interim. Plus there is a setting in "Preferences -> Playback and Recording" to share the audio drivers with other programs.
 

I don't think he's suggesting that zombie mode goes away but just that a retry option is available.  It could just be a simple Retry button on the existing warning dialogs.  It's a simple thing that would improve the user experience for some of us.  

Sounds like a good addition!

Sonar, Logic, Cubase, Bitwig, Ableton, Reaper, StudioOne, Digital Performer, ProTools, Fruityloops? Just puzzled by the original post claiming ownership of "at least" ten different DAWs. I'm having a really hard time thinking of many more than those, I suppose there's Samplitude/Sequioa? Nuendo, which is really a permutation of Cubase. Sounds really, really expensive and labour intensive to have to keep up with all of those. I could see three or four, but ten?

Sanderxpander
Sonar, Logic, Cubase, Bitwig, Ableton, Reaper, StudioOne, Digital Performer, ProTools, Fruityloops? Just puzzled by the original post claiming ownership of "at least" ten different DAWs. I'm having a really hard time thinking of many more than those, I suppose there's Samplitude/Sequioa? Nuendo, which is really a permutation of Cubase. Sounds really, really expensive and labour intensive to have to keep up with all of those. I could see three or four, but ten?

There is a listing of the DAWs on the Software link in my signature . I mainly use the other DAWS so that I can load up client's projects in the native DAW with plugins, effects, automation, etc intact. I then render out the tracks to WAV files and import them into SONAR for final mixing and mastering at 96khz/24bit.
It wasn't too expensive, to acquire and maintain. I've found that the cheapest way to acquire most DAWs is to purchase a cheap used version and then wait for the software company to have a sale on upgrades. I generally hold off on purchasing further upgrades until I get a project in that requires a newer version than what I have.
 
-e.B