tenfoot
Are you trying to use the top end EQ bus as a parallel send the way you would paralell compression? 

 
 
I just edited post #9 which should answer your question: NO. 

tenfoot
Regardless, it seems the way you would like to achieve your initial scenario involves combining tracks for processing and then redividing them, so the short answer to your quandary is that it is impossible on any DAW without the second bus\aux with cloned EQ. 

 
It appears that way. But I wonder if there is some studio trick. And if not in Sonar maybe in some other DAW so I can FR it.

The definitive answer was already given by tenfoot several posts ago. You essentially want to combine tracks in a bus and then split them again. That's simply impossible. This isn't midi, with separate channels and note numbers. An audio bus doesn't know what's going through it, it just processes whatever audio stream comes through it.

So no, you can't do what you want the way you want to. If you also don't like any of the suggested methods that you CAN do, I don't know what to tell you. I will say that all successful music to date has been produced without this "required" technique.

I'm struggling to understand how you envision the plumbing that would allow a single bus to split its outgoing signal solely based on the incoming audio, since buses by nature combine signals and don't just pass them thru as-is.   
 
Maybe you'd need something like a surround bus whose inputs match its outputs, but I guess that would really be more like a matrix of sorts rather than a traditional bus. 
 

Notecrusher

chuckebaby
cant you just use the Quad core EQ in the pro channel on the hi hat track ?

 
 

tenfoot
Could you could set up an aux track with the same eq settings as your top end eq buss, then route the high hat through that before sending it to the drum bus?

This is what I'm doing now, but I don't like it. Duplicating the EQ and its settings isn't a good solution. if I make a change it has to be changed everywhere, that could easily get messed up.
 

I could clearly understand what the OP needs but as others pointed out, even I don't see how a bus could be set to two different outputs at the same time because that's what would be required if two different inputs to a bus need to be routed to different destinations. I can't see how that could be done at all, at least till date.
 
If using a new bus/aux and duplicating the fx plugin settings is what the concern is, I guess what you are implying is that you would make changes to one plugin (say an eq) and then go and make similar changes by opening the 2nd copied plugin. Now this could cause minor differences if you are not looking at the exact numbers and settings in the plugin.
If you need 100% exact copy of settings, a better solution would be to make changes in one and then delete the other one and ctrl-drag the first one to the 2nd bin (which will copy the plugin with the exact same modified settings). I know this would be cumbersome if the case is for a big number of copies of the plugin but quite a quick and easy solution for a small number, say 5 or less.
 
This was also suggested in another context by Craig in another thread :   http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3205192 
BTW, this thread is about a feature for linking similar fx bin plugins which would be a nice feature to have in this context. 
 

Notecrusher
 

tenfoot
Regardless, it seems the way you would like to achieve your initial scenario involves combining tracks for processing and then redividing them, so the short answer to your quandary is that it is impossible on any DAW without the second bus\aux with cloned EQ. 

 
It appears that way. But I wonder if there is some studio trick. And if not in Sonar maybe in some other DAW so I can FR it.

The limitation in your scenario is the number of audio channels the DAW supports for each track AND  the number of audio channels that the EQ supports.
 
The routing scenario you describe is NOT impossible and could be accomplished in another DAW whose name starts with "R".  The other DAW does this by supporting up to 64 separate audio channels per track.
 
However, if you still want the synthesizers to remain in stereo, the EQ would be required to support at least 4 input channels and 4 output channels to keep the two signal flows separate.
 
If you don't require stereo output for your synth tracks, then you could achieve this in Sonar:
 
1. Hard pan the Hi Hat track LEFT and route it to new AUX track, Aux 1.
2. Hard pan the Synth tracks RIGHT and route them to Aux 1.
3.  Set Output of AUX 1 to "None".
4.  Add Pre-fader Send on AUX 1 to new Hi Hat Bus and pan Hard LEFT.
5.  Add Pre-fader Send on AUX 1 to Synths Bus and pan hard RIGHT.
6.  Add EQ to AUX 1.
6.  Set new Hi Hat Bus to Mono interleave and output to Drum Bus.  Hi Hat Bus is needed to center panned signal.
7.  Set Synths Bus to Mono interleave to center panned signal.
 
HiHat track --> AUX 1 -------->  Pre-fader send  --> HiHat Bus (mono interleave) --> Drum Bus
pan full LEFT                              pan full LEFT
 
Synth tracks --> AUX 1  ----->  Pre-fader send  -->  Synth Bus (mono interleave)
pan full RIGHT                           pan full RIGHT
 
-- Ron

ramscapri
http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3205192 
this thread is about a feature for linking similar fx bin plugins which would be a nice feature to have in this context. 

 
Now we're getting somewhere!!! Using groups is kinda clunky cos you need to hand map every parameter and you're limited to four (of Sonar's choosing) AFAICT. Azslow's solution, which links and syncs all params across FX looks a lot better. I'll have to install AZ Controller and try it out.
 

SquireBum

Notecrusher
 

tenfoot
Regardless, it seems the way you would like to achieve your initial scenario involves combining tracks for processing and then redividing them, so the short answer to your quandary is that it is impossible on any DAW without the second bus\aux with cloned EQ. 

 
It appears that way. But I wonder if there is some studio trick. And if not in Sonar maybe in some other DAW so I can FR it.

The limitation in your scenario is the number of audio channels the DAW supports for each track AND  the number of audio channels that the EQ supports.
 
The routing scenario you describe is NOT impossible and could be accomplished in another DAW whose name starts with "R".  The other DAW does this by supporting up to 64 separate audio channels per track.
 
However, if you still want the synthesizers to remain in stereo, the EQ would be required to support at least 4 input channels and 4 output channels to keep the two signal flows separate.
 
If you don't require stereo output for your synth tracks, then you could achieve this in Sonar:
 
1. Hard pan the Hi Hat track LEFT and route it to new AUX track, Aux 1.
2. Hard pan the Synth tracks RIGHT and route them to Aux 1.
3.  Set Output of AUX 1 to "None".
4.  Add Pre-fader Send on AUX 1 to new Hi Hat Bus and pan Hard LEFT.
5.  Add Pre-fader Send on AUX 1 to Synths Bus and pan hard RIGHT.
6.  Add EQ to AUX 1.
6.  Set new Hi Hat Bus to Mono interleave and output to Drum Bus.  Hi Hat Bus is needed to center panned signal.
7.  Set Synths Bus to Mono interleave to center panned signal.
 
HiHat track --> AUX 1 -------->  Pre-fader send  --> HiHat Bus (mono interleave) --> Drum Bus
pan full LEFT                              pan full LEFT
 
Synth tracks --> AUX 1  ----->  Pre-fader send  -->  Synth Bus (mono interleave)
pan full RIGHT                           pan full RIGHT
 
-- Ron

Whilst I wouldn't use this particular routing/eq technique and wouldn't sacrifice stereo output of my synths, I gotta say that's a pretty clever solution Ron:)