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  • Easy way to draw in portamento? (p.2)
2016/06/05 10:28:01
Beepster
2016/06/05 10:36:49
scook
Beepster
That's the old version of Zeta. It should have Porta as well but you might want to use the newer version.
 

FYI, z3ta+2 is not bundled with SONAR. I believe you picked it up with a special bundle which included SONAR X1 and a couple of other products including z3ta+2.
2016/06/05 10:40:37
Beepster
scook
Beepster
That's the old version of Zeta. It should have Porta as well but you might want to use the newer version.
 

FYI, z3ta+2 is not bundled with SONAR. I believe you picked it up with a special bundle which included SONAR X1 and a couple of other products including z3ta+2.




Yup (X1 Production Suite). I thought there was a some kind of light version of Zeta2 included though but I guess not. That's a shame because Z3ta+2 is quite useful.
 
Good catch.
 
Edit: I guess that would make the Zeta instructions posted by Loptec in that thread not as useful but maybe the concept can be translated to Zeta1. There's still lots of other good cenceptual info in there though.
 
Hope you've been well.
2016/06/05 10:42:22
guitz
Beepster
Here's the thread. It even has instructions for Zeta.
 
http://forum.cakewalk.com/MIDI-Gurus-Questions-about-writing-in-Portamento-controllers-on-specific-notes-m3156700.aspx
 
Cheers.
 




 
sorry about that...yea , I've had it in my list of 'products' for a couple years (the +1 version apparently) but never downloaded because I'm a guitar guy, but needed some synth sounds...
2016/06/05 10:43:52
scook
The bundled version is the original z3ta+ v1.5 renamed z3ta+ classic.
 
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2016/06/05 10:44:39
Beepster
guitz
sorry about that...yea , I've had it in my list of 'products' for a couple years but never downloaded because I'm a guitar guy, but needed some synth sounds...




Oh ya... if you have access to it you should totally install it. It's (IMO) quite a bit better than the Classic version and comes with a bunch more patches. Also you can then follow Loptec's instructions to the letter.
 
/also a guitar guy... :-)
2016/06/05 11:29:44
John T
It's much better yeah, and it also includes a lot (perhaps all?) of the z3ta+1 patches, so if you've got a specific sound you're using, youy should be able to replicate it fairly easily.
2016/06/05 16:10:43
jimkleban
OK, so PORTAMENTO as you describe for synths usually has to be part of the engine of the VST to work.  When it is part of the engine, you use midi cc data to set portamento ON and another midi cc to set the time it takes to slide to the note.
 
This gets even trickier if you try and use a SAMPLE engine with samples and not a synth engine with portamento built in.
 
The VTSi synths from GFORCE (Oddity 2, Mini Monsta, etc) and the suite of synths VSTi from Arturia all have Portamento (or glide) built into their engines like on the original synths.
 
Now, some of the sample player VSTs have tried to implement a form of portamento so you can apply this to any sound and not just a synth.  After all these years, the winning implementation of this effect remains to be Kontakt,  which implements this thru a user script that you can add to a program definition within Kontakt.  Other software titles also try this but the NI version works the best IMHO.
 
Some companies try to do this with "internal timed pitch bends" that give you the glide but no control over which note's attack transient is used and sounds sometimes awful (Sampletank for instance).
 
Hope this helps.
Jim
2016/06/05 19:18:26
guitz
OMG, I figured this out!!....Using the older z3ta1, I stumbled upon what works....it's as simple as  overlapping the blips of notes in the piano roll view JUST A HAIR, it triggers the portamento effect! Brilliant! ...I'm not sure how much you can tweak by moving the overlap...I'll play with it some, but I can already tell, it's sliding into and out of notes just enough to make me a happy camper...:)
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