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2016/05/21 20:39:48
Vas
Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]
Vas
Hey,
 
I just realized that my Sonar Platinum membership ended March 7, 2016.
That is probably why I did not receive the $99 lifetime offer.
So can I still get the lifetime membership?
 
When does the lifetime membership offer expire?
 
Please help.


Hi Vas,
 
You will get pricing on June 1st. Offer expires August 31st so you have time to decide.




I love Sonar. It is the only DAW that has 100% of my requirements. 
Since my subscription has expired what is the most economical way to proceed to get the $99 lifetime offer.
Not sure what is meant by "You will get pricing on June 1st."
2016/05/21 21:38:13
Vastman
You will find out June 1st... OY!
This has been discussed ad nauseum... those of us renewing are being rewarded... and it has been stated NUMEROUS TIMES there will be a fair offer unfolding and you'll get what you deserve........... on June 1st.
brainless? lazy? clutter freaks?  just a couple random thoughts crossing my mind...  
 
2016/05/21 22:35:14
Vas
Thanks!
 
What was I thinking!!!???
 
 
2016/05/21 22:36:12
joden
yeah I've been with em since Twelve Tone days - I didn't get an email
2016/05/21 22:40:54
kennywtelejazz
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2016/05/22 00:27:28
The Grim
Meno
I own Studio One 3 Professional and Sonar Platinum. Right now I happen to like Studio One 3 layout much better than Sonar Platinum. This being said when I received my 99.00 offer from Cakewalk I jumped all over it because I know that Cakewalk is always moving forward and will constantly better their DAW. Now I never have to worry about making that decision if I should do the next years upgrade again. I can go back to the latest and greatest version of Sonar whenever I want without worrying about what it will cost and who knows at some point I may drop upgrades to Studio One when I feel Sonar meets my whims and needs.
 
Thank you Cakewalk for making my life so much easier and less stressful! Peace and out...
 
-John    




this is exactly my situation (plus reaper and mixbus 3) i wasn't going to renew again after this years subscription expired, and wasn't moving past manchester for various reasons, but when this popped up there was really no thinking required and no decision to be made, instant buy, and i put aside my 'various reasons' and installed the latest early release. now at any time down the track if the tide changes again and sonar draws me back there is nothing to pay, i am already there at the latest and greatest version, don't have to worry about it as long as sonar exists. it really is an awesome deal, and as long as it is not detrimental to cakewalk, which by all accounts it isn't, then its all good, thank you very much.  i think they are smart enough not to shoot themselves and us in the foot, at least they deserve the benefit of any doubt. i will be purchasing any extra items of interest, of course it would be icing on the cake if they were all usable in other daw's, but regardless if they are of interst i will purchase them if for no other reason than return the gesture that has been given to me via the lifetime deal.
 
not sure about the comments in various threads which seem to aim at something underhanded going on or that it may be a cash grab because they know they are going down the sh*^$r. i mean even if it was true, asking the question to me seems rather pointless, i mean if someone was about to rob you, and you ask them are they going to rob you, i'm fairly certain that he would answer 'no' even if they were, so those type of questions are fairly pointless in my view, and maybe a little rude and insulting if nothing else.
 
props to the cakewalk and gibson officials for their efforts since this was announced, they have really had their work cut out for them and have gone beyond the call of duty. they have conducted themselves very well, and i think they must have fairly thick skins
2016/05/22 01:14:57
SubSonic
I certainly took the leap and went ahead and did lifetime upgrade deal too. I am an infrequent user of SONAR at this moment - simply because my musical creation and recording time itself has been limited by other life demands at present - but I still have the desire to one day get back to it on a daily basis as, at the very least, a passionate hobby once again. It is why I signed on to the subscription service from the get go as well - I need it to be there when I am finally ready to get back to it and this was a great way for that to happen. Certainly since I see the time on the near horizon that I can get back into indulging my creative side once again.
2016/05/22 07:29:41
Billy Buck
digimidi
I have faith in Cakewalk.  I just took the plunge!




Yeah, I bit on the lifetime of SPlat updates too! Great deal for those of us that are long time/loyal Cakewalk/SONAR users. I upgraded to every SONAR version since v1.0 (2001) and had Pro Audio 9 before that. So for me it is a no brainer. I thought I would pull the trigger before Cake changes their minds!  
 
I'm all in.....SPlat for Life!  
 
Cheers,
 
Billy Buck
2016/05/22 08:29:48
lfm
Anderton
Growth doesn't come from existing SONAR customers upgrading, that's just maintenance...look at how many people are still stuck on X1 or even 8.5. Those people could have all received free updates for life and it wouldn't have made a penny's worth of difference to the bottom line.
 
But they didn't get free updates for life, because they didn't continue to support SONAR and Cakewalk. The people who renewed Platinum DID. They deserve a reward. I guess in this day and age it's a weird concept to think that a company really appreciates its users. Oh well.

 
What feedback did you get why people are still on X1 or 8.5?
It's a little bit what I have been on about like in the thread "Psychology of the wallet..".
Paying is also a statement - I like what you do, so I pay again.
 
I bought Sonar 4 Studio 2005, but stayed on that since I felt no response getting the reported bugs fixed. Not until 8.5 and I wanted a 64-bit version for the new computer did I upgrade. That is a loss of 4 upgrade fees or so.
 
Then I stayed on 8.5(actually running other daws though) until X3, since so many things were missing from 8-series.
 
Then I got Artist 2015 and started looking for notation that embrace what I need. Tested last spring/summer 5-6 notation software and found that upgrade fee to Cubase Pro 8 were not more, and Cubase has really decent notation. So inability again from Cakewalk to address the notation part drove me to Cubase - and found a lot of headroom for other things as well, arranger tracks, VCA faders, good offset handling of automation, like how track view is scrolled, all Waves plugin fully supported etc. Thought for a while to do recording/mixing in Sonar and just notation in Cubase, but changed my mind and made the leap over. So many things that let me play around in a single project as an endless bar range palette and then use arranger track to combine and regenerate a new full project when I get the parts that I feel fit together. Basically using one project as scratch pad.
 
So acting on feature request or bug reports or NOT also has consequence on how we users act - psychology of the wallet.
 
How good an idea removing that part from the relationship is - is unclear - maybe it's a good thing bringing more onboard, don't know. With extended dialog in other ways it's probably fine.
 
But I never saw more determination in any other vendor - so Cakewalk will be monitored what is up in future.
Sonar is a really fine daw and am sure I will be onboard again at some time.
2016/05/22 15:49:25
jimkleban
This goes to John specifically..... this thread was just for me to post some thoughts on what I think (and others may think) about this too good to be true offer.  I usually don't respond to individual posts but I feel I owe John an explanation. 
 
If this thread inferred that I thought this is a bad deal and I was upset, please read it again, in where I close with "Having Blind Faith" that the powers to be have this under control and was only questioning the wisdom of giving up millions of dollars of revenue for an extra one time hit of revenue. This seemed puzzling especially since this new subscription deal has been executed and accepted so positively by us users.  I like that fixes and new features are being realized more frequently for about the same cost as was the annual upgrade fee (we are all winners here).  
 
I know that CAKE is saying that most of their revenue is NOT coming from existing users but even at 10,000 annual updates we are talking about $1M per year in revenue that has apparently been given up by this new lifetime deal.  I am going to sign up for this and my faith is that CAKE is able to remain my DAW environment software for many years to come.
 
I felt that I  wanted to get my thoughts out to the community to see what others think as well.  And I would say that based upon the additional input here, most agree that this move by CAKE is a bit of a mystery and that, like me, most folks have some blind faith in this move and will be signing up for this too good to be true business model change for us SPLAT  users.  
 
I did some calculations and I think I have purchased over $2000 in upgrades since I first signed up in the mid 1980s to CAKEWALK when the product was basically a MIDI editor with little to no support for AUDIO. I am sure that most of us long time users could estimate how much income they have provided to CAKE for upgrades and as you can see, we are talking about a multi million business change cost to CAKE for what appears to be (from their words) a reward for all of us sticking with CAKE all these years or at least (for newer users) to take the SPLAT plunge.
 
Only time will tell how this turns out but again, I say, they have my blind faith as a loyal and dedicated user of their DAW software.
 
Again, for John, this is why and how I started this thread in good faith and if this came across as a CAKE bashing, that was not my intent for which I apologize to anyone who took this OP as a negative to bakers.
 
Jim
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