2016/04/27 17:58:08
Jim Roseberry
tlw
Since bootcamp, as I understand it, is essentially just Apple supplied Windows drivers for their hardware, a dual-boot manager and an installation system that allows repartitioning without deleting the existing drive contents I can't see what there is not to support any more than two dual-boot Windows installations on the same hardware.



Though I agree... that's the official word from Cakewalk.   
2016/04/27 20:17:13
Anderton
tlw
Since bootcamp, as I understand it, is essentially just Apple supplied Windows drivers for their hardware, a dual-boot manager and an installation system that allows repartitioning without deleting the existing drive contents I can't see what there is not to support any more than two dual-boot Windows installations on the same hardware.



All the Mac people asking why they can't access their files on the other partitions, why their AU plug-ins don't work, why is El Capitan not recognizing their interface, when will Cakewalk come out with a version for the iPad, etc. etc. 
2016/04/27 23:41:37
VariousArtist
I've been running Sonar on a MacBook Pro for years and it runs well. Really well. That laptop has been the most reliable piece of computer hardware I have owned. And I'm a PC user primarily and I've developed in and for "nearly" every OS and hardware combination out there.

That being said, heed the advice about installing Windows via bootcamp and run it directly (rather than through the Mac OS).

You can get fancy if you want and create a virtual machine within the Mac OS and then map that to be your bootcamp partition. That way you can access the Windows partition within the Mac OS or directly. Though make sure you always run Sonar in that "direct" mode.

I have a regular PC that I built myself as a powerhouse machine, but it's nice to have portability of a laptop. Having had the MacBook for years as that portable option I don't think I'll be in a hurry to get a regular PC laptop

Good luck!
2016/04/28 05:22:28
shawn@trustmedia.tv
I want to run SONAR on my Commodore 64 because, reasons. - Shawn Lee Farrell
 

2016/04/28 06:45:54
Sanderxpander
I don't get all the magic voodoo that seems to surround Mac. They mostly use decent hardware but many people seem to think that somehow even Windows apps run better on a Mac because it's a Mac. Once you strip a Mac of OSX, it's not really a Mac anymore. It's just a PC with ok to good hardware and expensive styling. Mac doesn't really make much of their own hardware apart from the outer design. It's just an Intel CPU in there, generic RAM, 3rd party hard drives that you can buy anywhere, etc. 
 
I think many people are comparing the performance to a ****ty specced PC. Plus, you know, cognitive dissonance dictating that after all that extra money and effort, it must be better. 
2016/04/28 08:14:00
Jim Roseberry
VariousArtist
Having had the MacBook for years as that portable option I don't think I'll be in a hurry to get a regular PC laptop



FWIW, There's a huge difference between a "regular" PC laptop... and a top-tier custom laptop.
With the later, you can use a Clevo shell and run a 6700k desktop (not mobile) CPU.
Though not cheap, this is the closest you'll get to true desktop performance in a laptop.
Smokes all other laptops... including the highest-end MBP... at about the same cost as that MBP.
2016/04/28 08:15:33
Jim Roseberry
Anderton
All the Mac people asking why they can't access their files on the other partitions, why their AU plug-ins don't work, why is El Capitan not recognizing their interface, when will Cakewalk come out with a version for the iPad, etc. etc. 



It's all the same... only the names will change...
Wait... isn't that a song???   
2016/04/28 08:22:42
Sanderxpander
Jim Roseberry
VariousArtist
Having had the MacBook for years as that portable option I don't think I'll be in a hurry to get a regular PC laptop



FWIW, There's a huge difference between a "regular" PC laptop... and a top-tier custom laptop.
With the later, you can use a Clevo shell and run a 6700k desktop (not mobile) CPU.
Though not cheap, this is the closest you'll get to true desktop performance in a laptop.
Smokes all other laptops... including the highest-end MBP... at about the same cost as that MBP.


I have a Clevo shell of a few years old. It runs a 2760 Sandy Bridge quad core i7 and is still powerful enough to do almost anything I throw at it. I can highly recommend these if anyone wants to get a serious PC laptop. The only thing is the adapter is huge and the battery life isn't great. Probably also because it has a powerful video card in it (or it was, four years ago).
2016/04/28 08:39:38
Jim Roseberry
Sanderxpander
I don't get all the magic voodoo that seems to surround Mac. They mostly use decent hardware but many people seem to think that somehow even Windows apps run better on a Mac because it's a Mac. Once you strip a Mac of OSX, it's not really a Mac anymore. It's just a PC with ok to good hardware and expensive styling. Mac doesn't really make much of their own hardware apart from the outer design. It's just an Intel CPU in there, generic RAM, 3rd party hard drives that you can buy anywhere, etc. 
 
I think many people are comparing the performance to a ****ty specced PC. Plus, you know, cognitive dissonance dictating that after all that extra money and effort, it must be better. 




I agree...
 
You know where Apple is genius?
In the packaging and presentation.
It looks impressive/slick.
 
Been to a couple graphic design firms... where they had both Mac and PCs.
They'd rave about how awesome the Macs were compared to PCs.
They were comparing Mac Pros to generic HP PCs.
At 4-5 times the cost, the Macs were indeed superior.  
 
You're right about Mac hardware.
I just recently upgraded a new 27" 5k iMac.
Put in a 6700k CPU, 32GB RAM, 500GB SSD
Ironically, it's faster than current generation Mac Pros (but that's another topic/thread).
The hardware inside is decent to good.  There's nothing exceptional.
Similar in principal to other "off-the-shelf" machines... but with a higher base standard.
Would I want the iMac as my main/only machine?  No...
Does it look slick with the small brushed-aluminum keyboard and mouse with touch/scroll surface?  Yes.
2016/04/28 08:49:29
Jim Roseberry
Sanderxpander
 
I have a Clevo shell of a few years old. It runs a 2760 Sandy Bridge quad core i7 and is still powerful enough to do almost anything I throw at it. I can highly recommend these if anyone wants to get a serious PC laptop. The only thing is the adapter is huge and the battery life isn't great. Probably also because it has a powerful video card in it (or it was, four years ago).



Yeah, the Clevo shells and PS aren't slim/svelte.  
Big/Burly... built for high-performance
Battery life isn't particularly good... but I've never been in a situation where I couldn't get power.
Skylake runs a bit on the cooler side... so it works particularly well in this application.
 
 
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