• SONAR
  • Sonar X3 and NI Kontakt player 5. (p.2)
2016/05/15 23:42:39
abacab
Hi Gerry, I use X3 and Kontakt 5 Player.
 
If you do the following steps, do you get sound?
 
1. Create a new (test) Sonar Project.
2. Sonar menu>Insert>Softsynth>VST2>Kontakt 5 (simple imstrument track should be fine for now).
3. From Synth rack, open synth properties to view the Kontakt GUI. Select desired Instrument in Kontakt.
4. Play keys on virtual keyboard? Any sound? If yes, proceed ...
5. Sonar menu>Views>Piano Roll View. Draw a few notes on piano roll and hit play on transport. Any sound?
6. Right click on track in the clips pane>Import Midi>select your MIDI file (or drag MIDI file from the media browser onto the track in the clips pane). Hit play on the control bar. Any sound?
 
If this test works, you should be able to work out the differences between your original project setup and this test.
2016/05/16 08:28:19
dcumpian
I'm guessing at this point based on what you've written that you do not have a keyboard midi controller? If not, you should. A physical controller will make working with midi so much easier.
 
If you have a controller, the mod wheel is usually somewhere to the left of the keys. It moves up and down and rests in the middle. Press record on your track and push the mod wheel up to adjust the volume/expression of the horns.
 
If you do not have a physical controller, open the midi track in the PRV (double-click by default), then at the bottom of the PRV, click the little "+" button and add a new controller, select "Modulation". Now, you can draw in "mod wheel" movements with your mouse.
 
I can't really tell if you are having routing issues or not, but follow the advice above if you are.
 
Regards,
Dan
2016/05/16 18:00:30
Gerry 1943
Thank you very much ABACAB. Very simple explanation ( not complex at all ) and everything seems to work fine.
Greatly appreciated this type of explanation from a novice. Simple and direct to the point.
Cannot thank you enough. Have been trying for a while to get NI Kontakt to work. Was getting discouraged and tought I had purchased the different softwares for nothing. Now I can go and spend more ......
 
Thank you again.
 
Gerry
2016/05/16 18:44:30
arlen2133
So you got it to work Gerry?
2016/05/16 19:19:04
Gerry 1943
YES.
2016/05/16 20:25:17
arlen2133
That's awesome!  Don't forget to update the title with "solved". 
 
2016/05/16 21:20:45
abacab
Gerry 1943
Thank you very much ABACAB. Very simple explanation ( not complex at all ) and everything seems to work fine.
Greatly appreciated this type of explanation from a novice. Simple and direct to the point.
Cannot thank you enough. Have been trying for a while to get NI Kontakt to work. Was getting discouraged and tought I had purchased the different softwares for nothing. Now I can go and spend more ......
 
Thank you again.
 
Gerry


Glad to help.  I tried to focus on your original problem statement "when playing their is no sound coming from the
track".  I hope I was not being insulting by beginning at the very basics (sort of like, "is the power light on, haha!) :-)
 
As several others have taken the time to assist, it might be welcomed if you elaborated a little bit more about why this was not working for you in the beginning, and how this solution resolved it.  The group benefits by lessons learned as well :-)
2016/05/17 16:54:16
Gerry 1943
Hi ABACAB. You were not insulting at all. As you can probably see by the number of requests, I am fairly new at this
and I think that sometimes I want to bite more than I can chew!!!!!
What you gave me was nice and simple......one track, one Kontakt instrument. If I want to use more than one Kontakt instrument, all I have to do is create a new track. right.
Now, all of the other instructions out there are creating multi tracks in Kontack and Sonar as if you want to use more than one instrument. On all those instructions, after the initial track, any additional instrument seemed, as I understood, to need a audio and midi track attached to it. And as a matter of fact some even had mono and/or stereo tracks.
That is what was confusing.
Your instruction was to the point....nice and simple for the average Joe to understand.
 
Again, thank you all for your inputs. Every bit of info is very much appreciated and useful.
Gerry
2016/05/17 20:09:15
abacab
Hello Gerry, glad you got over the hump. I interpret your comments as you wish to use Kontakt in a multi-timbral mode (i.e., one instance of Kontakt, with multiple MIDI tracks, each on their own channel, each with their own sound).
 
I am usually lazy and just open several simple instrument tracks, each with their own instance of a synth that I want to hear. I like to stack several different synths, and rarely use just one synth in a project. My CPU & RAM is OK with this method :-)
 
But multi-timbral instruments are possible! If you have not already done so, please go to this Cakewalk Knowledge Base page and download the "Sonar X3 Reference Guide".  It has some great tutorials, using sample projects that come with Sonar. Get the big one!
http://www.cakewalk.com/S...and-Quick-Start-Guides
 
See Tutorial 4 – Playing and recording software instruments. On page 130, there is a guide for "What if I already have a project that contains MIDI tracks?". It uses a tutorial MIDI project with the multi-timbral Cakewalk TTS-1 instrument.
 
Did you read the manual?  Great!  Here is a quick summary of how to set up some tracks with one instance of Kontakt:
 
1. Open a new project, choose Template "16 Channel MIDI", this will open a project with 16 MIDI tracks.
2. Menu>Insert>Softsynth>VST 2>Kontakt 5.
3. On the "Insert Soft Synth Options", check the following: "First Synth Audio Output"; "Enable MIDI Output"; "Synth Property Page".
4. Go to the KONTAKT properties, select the instruments you wish to use.
5. Assign the MIDI channel to each instrument in Kontakt that corresponds to the Sonar track with the MIDI data for that instrument. Import or create the MIDI data for each instrument you are going to use, track by track.
6. You can check the Sonar MIDI tracks, and you should see that each of the 16 tracks are already assigned to the MIDI channel that corresponds to the track number. You can rename the tracks to "friendly" names here, also.
7. Hit play!
 
Good luck, and have fun!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
2016/05/17 22:05:21
Gerry 1943
Actually your solution was what I was looking for, it resolved my problem. What I described was what was giving me the problem, not what I wanted to do. I am like you, one instrument, one track. I knew about the multi track procedure that you describe, but I had a problem with it,and your solution came to the rescue.     Thanks again.     Gerry
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